06-30-2016, 03:32 AM
Really HOTPE, please consider that there are true differences between your world view, your thought processes, and others.
Perhaps if you reread my post, you'll see I'm attempting to understand what the unified world view is in this particular situation. I'm not saying, "I'm a westerner, I'm right" and everyone else is wrong. I'd like to understand if westerners and protectors have a similar or a different view of disturbing the lava formations on Mauna Kea, which you described as:
...the wound ...can't be repaired.
original desecration
the rock... as the lava flow it originally was
I think the vision and actions of the protestors and TMT designers are quite comparable in fact. Both want to move portions of the mountain in order to attain their goals, one to build a telescope, one group to stop construction. But they both by your description "wound, desecrate" and change the lava flow. So if the protestors approve of this by their own actions, are both groups desecrating the mountain, or are neither?
What I'm trying to understand is, do your comments apply to both the TMT and the protestors? The article you referenced from punafish would imply that it does, as the article discusses when two cultures look a single occurrence in the world, but draw two different views of the event. I would like to discover how a similar event (moving lava formations) can have two different interpretations. Isn't that the exact opposite of what is stated in the article? Because if protestors have as you say a "more subtle world view" and are against digging a foundation for the TMT, wouldn't they also defend the sanctity of all other natural formations on Mauna Kea rather than disturb and destroy them?
It's quite a conundrum.
“There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them.”
-Joseph Brodsky
Perhaps if you reread my post, you'll see I'm attempting to understand what the unified world view is in this particular situation. I'm not saying, "I'm a westerner, I'm right" and everyone else is wrong. I'd like to understand if westerners and protectors have a similar or a different view of disturbing the lava formations on Mauna Kea, which you described as:
...the wound ...can't be repaired.
original desecration
the rock... as the lava flow it originally was
I think the vision and actions of the protestors and TMT designers are quite comparable in fact. Both want to move portions of the mountain in order to attain their goals, one to build a telescope, one group to stop construction. But they both by your description "wound, desecrate" and change the lava flow. So if the protestors approve of this by their own actions, are both groups desecrating the mountain, or are neither?
What I'm trying to understand is, do your comments apply to both the TMT and the protestors? The article you referenced from punafish would imply that it does, as the article discusses when two cultures look a single occurrence in the world, but draw two different views of the event. I would like to discover how a similar event (moving lava formations) can have two different interpretations. Isn't that the exact opposite of what is stated in the article? Because if protestors have as you say a "more subtle world view" and are against digging a foundation for the TMT, wouldn't they also defend the sanctity of all other natural formations on Mauna Kea rather than disturb and destroy them?
It's quite a conundrum.
“There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them.”
-Joseph Brodsky
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves