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PMAR
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They should have had a coastal hwy all the way to Hilo before they even layed out the subdivisions.

I believe the concept is called "civic planning", and it's used wherever subdivisions are actually intended for "residential use" -- these were (claimed to be) "agricultural". (Tired old joke.)

a rail line that goes along the old bed way, with a mini center at key points (between subdivisions?)

I had similar thoughts when driving RR during the lava emergency: there's plenty of open space between the subdivisions for some little shopping centers -- these would be far enough away from existing homes that nobody would complain about "their backyard", and there's no existing subdivision boundaries to get in the way. If the route is primarily "local", it doesn't create the heavy traffic of a bypass road unless 130 is blocked.

One problem (I'm sure there are others) is the truck traffic required to keep the shopping centers stocked -- I believe this is why the Nanavale shopping center was platted but never built.

Building out RR as an actual railway would be amazing, but expensive; if it were built as a tourist attraction (eg, reproduction cane trains) with some kind of oceanfront inn at one end, and the lava tree park at the other... one can dream.

eminent domain would be just as effective with Shipman as it is with anyone else

This is probably unrealistic at the local level; it's more likely that the populace will self-organize into some kind of "virtual shopping center". Drones are already cheap enough to deliver a dozen eggs across the subdivision...
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PMAR - by alaskyn66 - 07-07-2016, 05:44 AM
RE: PMAR - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-07-2016, 05:54 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-07-2016, 05:58 AM
RE: PMAR - by Rob Tucker - 07-07-2016, 06:18 AM
RE: PMAR - by geochem - 07-07-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: PMAR - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-07-2016, 07:08 AM
RE: PMAR - by shockwave rider - 07-07-2016, 07:24 AM
RE: PMAR - by Rob Tucker - 07-07-2016, 07:31 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-07-2016, 07:39 AM
RE: PMAR - by james weatherford - 07-07-2016, 08:15 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-07-2016, 08:22 AM
RE: PMAR - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-07-2016, 08:26 AM
RE: PMAR - by james weatherford - 07-07-2016, 08:29 AM
RE: PMAR - by geochem - 07-07-2016, 09:24 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-07-2016, 09:37 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-07-2016, 09:42 AM
RE: PMAR - by alaskyn66 - 07-07-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-07-2016, 10:49 AM
RE: PMAR - by shockwave rider - 07-07-2016, 12:42 PM
RE: PMAR - by BillyB - 07-07-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: PMAR - by alaskyn66 - 07-07-2016, 01:34 PM
RE: PMAR - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-07-2016, 01:41 PM
RE: PMAR - by BillyB - 07-07-2016, 04:07 PM
RE: PMAR - by wax - 07-07-2016, 04:14 PM
RE: PMAR - by randomq - 07-07-2016, 04:35 PM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-07-2016, 05:36 PM
RE: PMAR - by Guest - 07-08-2016, 01:19 AM
RE: PMAR - by Rob Tucker - 07-08-2016, 02:03 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-08-2016, 03:31 AM
RE: PMAR - by Rob Tucker - 07-08-2016, 03:33 AM
RE: PMAR - by james weatherford - 07-08-2016, 04:28 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-08-2016, 04:32 AM
RE: PMAR - by randomq - 07-08-2016, 04:37 AM
RE: PMAR - by shockwave rider - 07-08-2016, 05:19 AM
RE: PMAR - by MattKarma - 07-08-2016, 05:31 AM
RE: PMAR - by alaskyn66 - 07-08-2016, 05:57 AM
RE: PMAR - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-08-2016, 06:10 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-08-2016, 06:23 AM
RE: PMAR - by Tink - 07-08-2016, 06:32 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-08-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: PMAR - by Tink - 07-08-2016, 08:36 AM
RE: PMAR - by MattKarma - 07-08-2016, 08:46 AM
RE: PMAR - by shockwave rider - 07-08-2016, 08:50 AM
RE: PMAR - by MattKarma - 07-08-2016, 08:56 AM
RE: PMAR - by 2liveque - 07-08-2016, 10:19 AM
RE: PMAR - by Rob Tucker - 07-08-2016, 10:29 AM
RE: PMAR - by pahoated - 07-08-2016, 10:30 AM
RE: PMAR - by james weatherford - 07-08-2016, 10:45 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-08-2016, 10:52 AM
RE: PMAR - by Tink - 07-08-2016, 12:10 PM
RE: PMAR - by Rob Tucker - 07-08-2016, 12:24 PM
RE: PMAR - by alaskyn66 - 07-08-2016, 12:28 PM
RE: PMAR - by alaskyn66 - 07-08-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-09-2016, 04:44 AM
RE: PMAR - by Obie - 07-09-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: PMAR - by Obie - 07-09-2016, 07:43 AM
RE: PMAR - by Obie - 07-09-2016, 07:46 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-09-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: PMAR - by Digital_Hillbilly - 07-15-2016, 07:46 AM
RE: PMAR - by pahoated - 07-15-2016, 08:15 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-15-2016, 08:32 AM
RE: PMAR - by Rob Tucker - 07-15-2016, 09:54 AM
RE: PMAR - by Seeb - 07-15-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-17-2016, 04:20 AM
RE: PMAR - by randomq - 07-17-2016, 05:14 AM
RE: PMAR - by Kapoho Joe - 07-17-2016, 05:28 AM
RE: PMAR - by Guest - 07-17-2016, 05:37 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-17-2016, 06:49 AM
RE: PMAR - by randomq - 07-17-2016, 09:50 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-17-2016, 12:17 PM
RE: PMAR - by pahoated - 07-17-2016, 01:02 PM
RE: PMAR - by shockwave rider - 07-17-2016, 03:29 PM
RE: PMAR - by randomq - 07-17-2016, 03:50 PM
RE: PMAR - by opihikao - 07-17-2016, 04:31 PM
RE: PMAR - by TomK - 07-17-2016, 06:22 PM
RE: PMAR - by Amrita - 07-17-2016, 10:34 PM
RE: PMAR - by randomq - 07-18-2016, 03:30 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-18-2016, 03:37 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-18-2016, 04:09 AM
RE: PMAR - by james weatherford - 07-18-2016, 04:42 AM
RE: PMAR - by Lee M-S - 07-18-2016, 05:08 AM
RE: PMAR - by opihikao - 07-18-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-19-2016, 03:06 AM
RE: PMAR - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-19-2016, 03:18 AM
RE: PMAR - by Kapoho Joe - 07-19-2016, 06:34 AM
RE: PMAR - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-19-2016, 06:38 AM
RE: PMAR - by pahoated - 07-19-2016, 05:31 PM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-20-2016, 02:59 AM
RE: PMAR - by pahoated - 07-20-2016, 04:36 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-20-2016, 05:14 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-20-2016, 05:50 AM
RE: PMAR - by opihikao - 07-20-2016, 05:52 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-20-2016, 07:19 AM
RE: PMAR - by Tink - 07-20-2016, 07:43 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-20-2016, 07:54 AM
RE: PMAR - by randomq - 07-21-2016, 04:32 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-21-2016, 04:40 AM
RE: PMAR - by alaskyn66 - 07-21-2016, 06:00 AM
RE: PMAR - by Kapoho Joe - 07-21-2016, 06:35 AM
RE: PMAR - by shockwave rider - 07-21-2016, 07:05 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-21-2016, 09:46 AM
RE: PMAR - by alaskyn66 - 07-21-2016, 10:15 AM
RE: PMAR - by bluesboy - 07-21-2016, 11:20 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-21-2016, 11:31 AM
RE: PMAR - by Amrita - 07-23-2016, 12:40 AM
RE: PMAR - by pahoated - 07-23-2016, 03:04 AM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-23-2016, 04:11 AM
RE: PMAR - by randomq - 07-23-2016, 12:22 PM
RE: PMAR - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-23-2016, 01:13 PM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-23-2016, 01:58 PM
RE: PMAR - by kalakoa - 07-23-2016, 05:19 PM
RE: PMAR - by SoCal_to_Hawaii - 07-24-2016, 06:34 AM

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