08-28-2016, 10:43 AM
TomK
A few days ago you wrote;
Hilopuna,
"As I recall from a much earlier forum thread on this same subject, besides the Mayor other senior staff were granted exceptions."
There's this thing called Google which you can use to search stuff, including Punaweb. It allows one to post evidence backing up their claims. It'd be nice if you could do that.
While I'd like to appreciate your helicoptering in and dropping some snark as an appropriate interjection to an obvious error or omission I can't. You could not have had any way of knowing this but I spent over a 1/2 hour using the Search option on this Forum to find that posting. After that frustration I chose to make a generalized response to HOPTE.
With your fine advice I went to "The Google" and did just as you recommended. Perhaps you hadn't done that prior to your advice? If you had perhaps you would not have extended it?
Or perhaps you have a more powerful logic and you can frame your Search better than my illformed, uneducated one? If so, please provide that comment from that thread and let's move the conversation forward. BTW, I could not find that information elsewhere, whatever the source of it was, including these;
http://bigislandnow.com/2015/07/21/mayor...-training/
http://khon2.com/2015/04/15/digging-deep...ard-use-3/
http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-ne...pend-kenoi
http://khon2.com/2015/04/02/mayors-credi...hsba-dues/
(that last one from one of your earlier posts, just to show I get around)
I also respond due to our last interaction some months ago, wherein you suggested that I was being hypocritical, that I had missed the "irony" of providing advice that I then did not follow myself. I didn't bother to respond at that time since there had been no irony. I thought you were just being snippy. Perhaps based on an active or latent hostility towards our Mayor? Anyhow, that's how I dismissed it at the time.
If you wish to go back and dissect what I had said and try to establish that there was a notable lack of self awareness on my part, leading to "irony, go ahead. If you can show that I had criticized others for their behavior and then made similar mistakes of hyperbole, or ad hominem attack, or a just plain ignorant statement, then use the Search function and bring it. I don't think it will be worth your while.
While I no doubt make mistakes from time to time I always try to raise the level of discourse on this forum. Your comments to me seem to suggest that you think I troll, or have a blind spot, or somehow don't meet a reasonable standard of discourse. So be it if you do....Peace Out.
FYI; I find your commentary on these threads well reasoned and reasonably delivered. However I seem to be a hair up your keister similar to gyp and ted.
A few days ago you wrote;
Hilopuna,
"As I recall from a much earlier forum thread on this same subject, besides the Mayor other senior staff were granted exceptions."
There's this thing called Google which you can use to search stuff, including Punaweb. It allows one to post evidence backing up their claims. It'd be nice if you could do that.
While I'd like to appreciate your helicoptering in and dropping some snark as an appropriate interjection to an obvious error or omission I can't. You could not have had any way of knowing this but I spent over a 1/2 hour using the Search option on this Forum to find that posting. After that frustration I chose to make a generalized response to HOPTE.
With your fine advice I went to "The Google" and did just as you recommended. Perhaps you hadn't done that prior to your advice? If you had perhaps you would not have extended it?
Or perhaps you have a more powerful logic and you can frame your Search better than my illformed, uneducated one? If so, please provide that comment from that thread and let's move the conversation forward. BTW, I could not find that information elsewhere, whatever the source of it was, including these;
http://bigislandnow.com/2015/07/21/mayor...-training/
http://khon2.com/2015/04/15/digging-deep...ard-use-3/
http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-ne...pend-kenoi
http://khon2.com/2015/04/02/mayors-credi...hsba-dues/
(that last one from one of your earlier posts, just to show I get around)
I also respond due to our last interaction some months ago, wherein you suggested that I was being hypocritical, that I had missed the "irony" of providing advice that I then did not follow myself. I didn't bother to respond at that time since there had been no irony. I thought you were just being snippy. Perhaps based on an active or latent hostility towards our Mayor? Anyhow, that's how I dismissed it at the time.
If you wish to go back and dissect what I had said and try to establish that there was a notable lack of self awareness on my part, leading to "irony, go ahead. If you can show that I had criticized others for their behavior and then made similar mistakes of hyperbole, or ad hominem attack, or a just plain ignorant statement, then use the Search function and bring it. I don't think it will be worth your while.
While I no doubt make mistakes from time to time I always try to raise the level of discourse on this forum. Your comments to me seem to suggest that you think I troll, or have a blind spot, or somehow don't meet a reasonable standard of discourse. So be it if you do....Peace Out.
FYI; I find your commentary on these threads well reasoned and reasonably delivered. However I seem to be a hair up your keister similar to gyp and ted.