02-12-2017, 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. It is an area which we call The Gypsy Zone.
Here's a relevant comment posted to Richard Ha's article "Why I Have a Problem with the Anti-TMT Movement".
http://www.hamakuasprings.com/2015/05/wh...-movement/
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I have lived on Oahu for over a decade and I have come to realize that the educated Hawaiians and the silent majority, it is the deluded morons who are the obnoxious voice of the people. No matter what the topic we are discussing, they will throw out the raping of their aina by foreigners.
Point out to them, facts and statistics and they will accuse you of racism. Point out their own hand in the overthrowing of their Queen because they wanted the freedoms and opportunities that US citizenship promised them and they will punch you because they can’t dispute your statement.
When you read the history of how the US invaded Hawaii, you will understand the delusion these people are living under.
I have tried to explain using economics and the actual process to become a state, but they usually reply with some heartfelt sentiment. If you asked them to make a list of their concerns about the TMT, they will take the opportunity to complain about their sovereignty rights or more money needed for Hawaiian programs or scholarships.
I’m so sick of hearing about the home of the Gods and Hawaiian rights every time a building gets built. You should see how angry they get when you ask them to pray to Pele to defend her home and wipe out all of the invaders on Mauna Kea. I then suggest that if Pele doesn’t respond in a week, she must not have any issues with the telescopes.
Honestly, most of the protesters must have forgotten that only the royalty actually owned the land and much of the land was sold off to foreigners. Honestly, the old system was much better when we could just throw women off of the Pali. I’m not sure if that was true or racist, but I’m sure some local expert will be more than happy to not correct me and go straight to the name calling. If Hawaii were truly invaded, they could press their claims under the Hague convention, but I doubt the majority of them would risk losing that case. There is just too much documentation showing how Hawaii petitioned to become a state.
We can discuss the TMT until we’re blue in the face, but no amount of protest will prevent it from being built, there’s simply too much resources involved. We should just allow the bleeding heart liberals a few moments to rant about their aina and Gods and freedom because it will be as effective as their protest.
The only reason there is so much support against TMT is because everyone wants their 5 minutes of fame, but statistics will tell you that 53,000 signature isn’t even 1% of the population. They have had their day in court and lost, the Governor no longer supports them and UH no longer supports them so they resort to sitting on the road to delay construction for a few weeks. Eventually UH will have to declare that area off limits for protesters and this will give the police the authorization to arrest all trespassers and we will no longer have to hear about the land weeping and the protesters can get back to campaigning for the legalisation of marijuana.