12-13-2017, 03:38 AM
Sheese, HOTPE! There is room for debate on the CCW aspect ... You are totally wrong on the other aspects
1st - Let me say that I think Hawaii currently has reasonable gun laws already in place. As I mentioned before, I've owned firearms in the past, and who knows, I'm getting older and may want to buy one again in the future. I don't see that Hawaii laws as enacted would prevent me from purchasing and using a rifle or shotgun as I would like. The registration and education requirements are not an obstacle, and I'm glad they're in place.
2nd - SCOTUS issued a majority opinion on 2nd Amendment rights. There was a minority opinion. States have interpreted and legislated differing laws based on the majority opinion. So plenty of room for discussion! Even when the discussion is among house representatives from, let's call them the "dumb"* states, who try to expand their unregulated approach to gun ownership beyond their own borders, and force their state laws on our state of Hawaii. They can vote on it and see whether or not they have the support. Any of us could save them some time though, and tell them they don't.
I think Hawaii may have the most reasonable gun laws in the nation. This has resulted in the lowest number of gun related deaths in the country. I see that as a positive consequence to how our state has implemented the most recent SCOTUS decisions. We have enough laws on the books, we don't need more in either direction.
* gun licenses for the blind, and toddlers
"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -James Madison, The Federalist Papers, 1787
1st - Let me say that I think Hawaii currently has reasonable gun laws already in place. As I mentioned before, I've owned firearms in the past, and who knows, I'm getting older and may want to buy one again in the future. I don't see that Hawaii laws as enacted would prevent me from purchasing and using a rifle or shotgun as I would like. The registration and education requirements are not an obstacle, and I'm glad they're in place.
2nd - SCOTUS issued a majority opinion on 2nd Amendment rights. There was a minority opinion. States have interpreted and legislated differing laws based on the majority opinion. So plenty of room for discussion! Even when the discussion is among house representatives from, let's call them the "dumb"* states, who try to expand their unregulated approach to gun ownership beyond their own borders, and force their state laws on our state of Hawaii. They can vote on it and see whether or not they have the support. Any of us could save them some time though, and tell them they don't.
I think Hawaii may have the most reasonable gun laws in the nation. This has resulted in the lowest number of gun related deaths in the country. I see that as a positive consequence to how our state has implemented the most recent SCOTUS decisions. We have enough laws on the books, we don't need more in either direction.
* gun licenses for the blind, and toddlers
"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -James Madison, The Federalist Papers, 1787
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves