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[mermaid53]

Ok. So here's a problem that illustrates HPP's community issues. There's no way to verify what you say, but I believe it. However there's no records of anything. All I can tell you is everyone I know voted for it because none of them have mailboxes, those that told me later they were against it...well guess what they have boxes. (I also feel this applies to paved road people vs dirt road people, but that's another subject.)

If you go read the Mailbox Committee info in the board minutes in the fall of 2016 you'll see that there was no board approval of the things I mentioned. My information also comes by way of attending a lot of these meetings. There was a morning "special board mtg" after the board got hit w/lots of member complaints. A sort of "regrouping" after the you know what hit the fan about the mailbox assessments. They knew they had to address this at the upcoming membership mtg. Tensions were high between the 3 members on the mailbox committee. Who was on the mailbox committee is in the minutes and they all live in HPP and 2 are on the current board, Dist 2 and 6 reps.

Eric if you go to the HPP Mailbox thread, you'll find posts where people sd they'd be willing to pay for mailboxes once the roads and easements were taken care of, but not until then. They lost trust in the board taking more $$$. And most people saw there was no real plan in place before trying to get $$$. Cart before the horse.

Secondly where did all these mailboxes that are here come from to start with? Wouldn't they have violated the bylaws at some point? Were fees collected? Why can't I get one too? I'll send a check today.

And lastly, having mail is a basic service. I know some people on punaweb poo-poo it as "antiquated" and "don't move my mailbox because I like to walk to it", but come on people think of the community. Yes it takes some property, but let's be realistic. All that land is probably never going to be 100% parks and schools. We need to adapt a little to the changing issues.

The 20 acres would have to be rezoned. You can thank the developer Watamull for our predicament. Their 20 acre lots can be used for community development. They pay 1 road fee for 20 acres too.

Regarding mail service...I heard just recently that another option that should be looked into, a "novel" idea....is to get mail delivered to our lots. Everyone should have access to getting their mail delivered. What about those who can no longer drive to pick up their mail? I heard someone was researching this angle and Dist 2 rep is focused on cluster boxes.

So yeah, perhaps the bylaws then should really be enforced and all the mailboxes removed then because they must have cost something at some point, and it's not a road. Or perhaps we should just do the right thing and allow everyone access to the same services. What it devolved into was a petty argument and attacking people. If I recall correctly the person proposing the mailboxes was so harassed they left Hawaii.

There were 3 people on the mailbox committee as stated above. No one moved away over it. The only person I can think of was the president at the time who resigned shortly after. The mailbox issue happened under her watch. She was board president for a couple of months only and she moved away but posts on HPP FB all the time

Bottom line: I feel a community run HPPOA is a mistake. They have obviously proved over decades that without a doubt private unqualified citizens can not manage such a large complex financial endeavor. Too many people don't have the time, stamina or drive to follow all the hidden actions of the HPPOA and hold them accountable. And the noise levels are so high that most sane people just pay their dues and ignore the drama because the truth is so obscured.

I was told there was a lot of chatter on HPP Facebook about property mgmt from those that feel the same way.