07-24-2018, 06:35 AM
punaweb "experts", who probably can't distinguish humane cultural practices... You truely are a "protector" (in the real sense of the word
It's important not only that we distinguish humane cultural practice, but distinguish authentic cultural practices as well. Kealoha calls herself a native practitioner. Does anyone know the kupuna she studied under, or which cultural practices she studied, and for how long? She has often enough laid claim that her illegal actions were legitimate or ancient Hawaiian practices, for which she was either arrested or charged, and often used her interactions with law enforcement as a gathering point to promote her agenda. However, no one ever asks who taught her those practices, or where it can be cited that other Hawaiians have engaged in similar actions.
She may be a legitimate practitioner, but if she is, one might ask why she seems to run up against the existing laws, far more than other cultural practitioners? How many times do you hear about other practitioners in a law breaking context as often as she is?
Respect the culture. We could very well learn something... you could try approaching a Kanaka and asking him/her.
Yes, I agree. But not every person who portrays themselves as a healer, or practitioner has the legitimate background, knowledge, and especially wisdom to present themselves as a leader or expert from mountaintop to the bottom of the sea. Maybe instead of asking generic questions to a random sample of Kanaka, we should be asking specific questions to people who present themselves as specific experts. For instance:
* Are you presently employed? If not, how do you support yourself? If it is donations from people who believe in your various causes, please describe a breakdown of expenses, perhaps including a pie chart showing who much is used directly and specifically for the movements you lead or participate in, and how much is for personal use such as your rent, your food, and the cable bill.
* Do you have an obsessive vendetta with a particular group of people, perhaps where you were formerly employed? Are your current actions in any way related to your experience there, or perhaps your job performance? Hopefully the answer is no, or it might cast a cloud of subjectivity over your belief system, and your willingness to view the world in an objective manner.
* As already noted above, who did you study with, what areas of study were conveyed, and for what period of time did this take place? Were any specific qualifications or level of expertise on the subject matter conveyed to you by the teacher(s)?
Again, there are many legitimate practitioners, and just as your doctor or dentist has framed certificates of his educational background hanging in his office for you to see, should we expect less from our cultural experts?
Is the jury still deadlocked? The odds that natural climate variability can account for the magnitude of the temperature changes over the course of the satellite record are roughly five in a million, researchers report. - Science, July 19, 2018.
It's important not only that we distinguish humane cultural practice, but distinguish authentic cultural practices as well. Kealoha calls herself a native practitioner. Does anyone know the kupuna she studied under, or which cultural practices she studied, and for how long? She has often enough laid claim that her illegal actions were legitimate or ancient Hawaiian practices, for which she was either arrested or charged, and often used her interactions with law enforcement as a gathering point to promote her agenda. However, no one ever asks who taught her those practices, or where it can be cited that other Hawaiians have engaged in similar actions.
She may be a legitimate practitioner, but if she is, one might ask why she seems to run up against the existing laws, far more than other cultural practitioners? How many times do you hear about other practitioners in a law breaking context as often as she is?
Respect the culture. We could very well learn something... you could try approaching a Kanaka and asking him/her.
Yes, I agree. But not every person who portrays themselves as a healer, or practitioner has the legitimate background, knowledge, and especially wisdom to present themselves as a leader or expert from mountaintop to the bottom of the sea. Maybe instead of asking generic questions to a random sample of Kanaka, we should be asking specific questions to people who present themselves as specific experts. For instance:
* Are you presently employed? If not, how do you support yourself? If it is donations from people who believe in your various causes, please describe a breakdown of expenses, perhaps including a pie chart showing who much is used directly and specifically for the movements you lead or participate in, and how much is for personal use such as your rent, your food, and the cable bill.
* Do you have an obsessive vendetta with a particular group of people, perhaps where you were formerly employed? Are your current actions in any way related to your experience there, or perhaps your job performance? Hopefully the answer is no, or it might cast a cloud of subjectivity over your belief system, and your willingness to view the world in an objective manner.
* As already noted above, who did you study with, what areas of study were conveyed, and for what period of time did this take place? Were any specific qualifications or level of expertise on the subject matter conveyed to you by the teacher(s)?
Again, there are many legitimate practitioners, and just as your doctor or dentist has framed certificates of his educational background hanging in his office for you to see, should we expect less from our cultural experts?
Is the jury still deadlocked? The odds that natural climate variability can account for the magnitude of the temperature changes over the course of the satellite record are roughly five in a million, researchers report. - Science, July 19, 2018.
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