08-24-2018, 06:50 AM
Obie: "I guess MarkD and others on here are the type of people who run toward tsunami's....Due to the approach of Hurricane Lane, ALL STATE PARKS ON ALL ISLANDS ARE CLOSED AS OF TODAY." Does closed mean something I don't understand ?"
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Good, Obie. Now you have articulated your criticism reasonably. You imply my views are idiotic/erratic. That's fine. (I'll make my counterpoints.) I'm sure others agree with you.
That's far from labeling someone (me) a troll, which generally involves baiting or posting fictitious/misleading posts in bad faith.
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Human nature means many people are compelled to view extreme acts of nature: raging river flows, lava flows, giant surf, tsunamis (which can be safely viewed from the lookout up belt highway past Bayshore Towers), fires, tornados, etc. Some people even engage, such as surfing storm surf, which despite what one would think, is not that dangerous, statistically speaking.
People do these things with situational awareness and paying attention to relative risk. But a few people have poor judgment and do foolhardy things like swim in the Wailuku River when the river flow is high. Or stick their head in a blowhole.
Some CD policies evolved based on foolhardy people. This causes problems for the rest of us. Closing "all" parks is not reflective of relative dangers. Hence people make their own judgments. CD doesn't like it, and many critics argue that is foolhardy. Be that as it may, many reasonable people will still make their own decisions about storm viewing.
Some relative risk factors: Based on the accurate hurricane mapping by the weather experts, people were able to deduce that dangerous winds were not going to smash Hilo. The only real danger here was/is heavy rain. Hilo more than any place is Hawaii is very experienced/set up to deal with rain. The town has enormous drainage channels. Hilo residents are very accustomed to driving in heavy rain. The Bayfront flooding is functioning exactly as it should (water collects before draining in the ocean).
The Reeds Island flooding shows some people built too close to the river. Some residents might need to relocate. The terrain at Rainbow Falls is much higher. There are many dangerous roads in East Hawaii, especially Hilo-Honokaa, flanked by hills and cliffs. This means a high potential of landslides onto cars. This road, Saddle Road and many others should be avoiding during flash flooding.
Meanwhile roads in central Hilo and many town parks have a high degree of safety in heavy rain. (Many locals revelled in the flooding in town parks yesterday!) CD might not like it; some people will argue that anyone who left their home in the past 24 hours was being reckless. OK. We are at a impasse. The impasse will continue....
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Good, Obie. Now you have articulated your criticism reasonably. You imply my views are idiotic/erratic. That's fine. (I'll make my counterpoints.) I'm sure others agree with you.
That's far from labeling someone (me) a troll, which generally involves baiting or posting fictitious/misleading posts in bad faith.
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Human nature means many people are compelled to view extreme acts of nature: raging river flows, lava flows, giant surf, tsunamis (which can be safely viewed from the lookout up belt highway past Bayshore Towers), fires, tornados, etc. Some people even engage, such as surfing storm surf, which despite what one would think, is not that dangerous, statistically speaking.
People do these things with situational awareness and paying attention to relative risk. But a few people have poor judgment and do foolhardy things like swim in the Wailuku River when the river flow is high. Or stick their head in a blowhole.
Some CD policies evolved based on foolhardy people. This causes problems for the rest of us. Closing "all" parks is not reflective of relative dangers. Hence people make their own judgments. CD doesn't like it, and many critics argue that is foolhardy. Be that as it may, many reasonable people will still make their own decisions about storm viewing.
Some relative risk factors: Based on the accurate hurricane mapping by the weather experts, people were able to deduce that dangerous winds were not going to smash Hilo. The only real danger here was/is heavy rain. Hilo more than any place is Hawaii is very experienced/set up to deal with rain. The town has enormous drainage channels. Hilo residents are very accustomed to driving in heavy rain. The Bayfront flooding is functioning exactly as it should (water collects before draining in the ocean).
The Reeds Island flooding shows some people built too close to the river. Some residents might need to relocate. The terrain at Rainbow Falls is much higher. There are many dangerous roads in East Hawaii, especially Hilo-Honokaa, flanked by hills and cliffs. This means a high potential of landslides onto cars. This road, Saddle Road and many others should be avoiding during flash flooding.
Meanwhile roads in central Hilo and many town parks have a high degree of safety in heavy rain. (Many locals revelled in the flooding in town parks yesterday!) CD might not like it; some people will argue that anyone who left their home in the past 24 hours was being reckless. OK. We are at a impasse. The impasse will continue....