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Ruggles Excused
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rogues that overthrew the Kingdom does not make it legitimate

On January 24, 1895 Queen Liliuokalani signed the final document abdicating her throne and swearing allegiance to the Republic of Hawaii, as well as an Oath of Loyalty to the Republic of Hawaii. It's not a popular document among Kingdom of Hawaii idealists which is why they prefer to talk about the events of 1893, but if you read the document it's difficult to get around the finality of the queen's written, signed statement and the completeness of the provisions contained within the statement. I've read other more optimistic interpretations from Kingdom believers, but it's hard to imagine any court anywhere would nullify what's written in black and white, and has stood as the defined legal framework for a functioning government in Hawaii* over 100 years.

After full and free consultation with my personal friends and with my legal advisors, both before and since my detention by military order in the Executive building, and acting in conformity with their advice, and also upon my own free volition... I do hereby and without any mental reservation or modification, and fully, finally, unequivocally, irrevocably, and forever abdicate, renounce and release ...
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/big60/Li...ation.html

* my phrase "a functioning government in Hawaii" could however be questioned

At a White House meeting in June, President Trump reportedly told Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe that “I remember Pearl Harbor.”
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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Ruggles Excused - by 2liveque - 08-21-2018, 10:41 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by 2liveque - 08-21-2018, 10:43 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by leilanidude - 08-21-2018, 11:06 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by keaau mary - 08-21-2018, 11:20 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Chunkster - 08-21-2018, 11:29 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by reni - 08-21-2018, 11:45 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 08-21-2018, 12:08 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-21-2018, 12:27 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by terracore - 08-21-2018, 12:52 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 08-21-2018, 01:41 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 08-21-2018, 01:53 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Chunkster - 08-21-2018, 02:21 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 08-21-2018, 05:25 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by randomq - 08-21-2018, 05:48 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 08-21-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by alohanaia - 08-21-2018, 05:54 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 08-21-2018, 05:56 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Chunkster - 08-21-2018, 06:17 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-21-2018, 06:21 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Radiopeg - 08-22-2018, 03:10 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by reni - 08-22-2018, 05:12 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by pander75 - 08-22-2018, 06:23 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Seeb - 08-22-2018, 06:30 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 08-22-2018, 06:50 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-22-2018, 07:11 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 08-22-2018, 07:12 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by bananahead - 08-22-2018, 08:20 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HighLow - 08-22-2018, 08:41 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by terracore - 08-22-2018, 12:18 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by glassnumbers - 08-22-2018, 12:27 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by terracore - 08-22-2018, 01:22 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Bullwinkle - 08-22-2018, 03:25 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 08-23-2018, 06:53 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by kalakoa - 08-23-2018, 07:21 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-23-2018, 07:59 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 08-23-2018, 02:18 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 08-29-2018, 02:10 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by kalakoa - 08-29-2018, 02:30 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-29-2018, 02:33 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by KeaauRich - 08-29-2018, 05:45 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by leilanidude - 08-30-2018, 12:27 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by kalakoa - 08-30-2018, 03:11 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-30-2018, 03:35 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 08-30-2018, 03:39 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by kalakoa - 08-30-2018, 04:01 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by randomq - 08-30-2018, 04:02 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 08-30-2018, 04:58 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 08-31-2018, 01:49 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 08-31-2018, 02:55 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by glassnumbers - 08-31-2018, 03:09 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by randomq - 08-31-2018, 06:46 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by kalakoa - 08-31-2018, 07:11 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 08-31-2018, 09:56 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-31-2018, 10:21 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by randomq - 08-31-2018, 10:41 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by leilanidude - 09-01-2018, 11:55 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by glassnumbers - 09-02-2018, 01:20 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Rob Tucker - 09-02-2018, 02:13 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by kalakoa - 09-02-2018, 04:35 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 09-02-2018, 06:11 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Chunkster - 09-02-2018, 08:08 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-02-2018, 04:38 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-05-2018, 11:57 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 09-06-2018, 02:21 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-06-2018, 02:45 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2018, 03:39 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 09-06-2018, 04:08 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 09-06-2018, 05:08 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 09-06-2018, 07:04 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2018, 07:13 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 09-06-2018, 07:43 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2018, 08:05 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 09-06-2018, 08:29 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 09-06-2018, 08:36 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 09-06-2018, 08:45 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-06-2018, 08:51 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by KeaauRich - 09-06-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 09-06-2018, 08:54 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2018, 09:08 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-06-2018, 10:10 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 09-06-2018, 11:32 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 09-06-2018, 12:43 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-06-2018, 02:38 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 09-06-2018, 03:17 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-06-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2018, 04:30 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by AaronM - 09-07-2018, 07:50 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-07-2018, 08:10 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-07-2018, 08:15 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 09-07-2018, 10:30 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by knieft - 09-07-2018, 10:35 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by terracore - 09-07-2018, 12:48 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-07-2018, 01:45 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-07-2018, 02:02 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 09-08-2018, 07:20 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by leilanidude - 09-08-2018, 09:16 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by My 2 cents - 09-08-2018, 10:15 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-08-2018, 05:22 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by riversnout - 09-08-2018, 05:35 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 09-08-2018, 06:00 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by randomq - 09-09-2018, 03:24 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Guest - 09-09-2018, 04:00 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-10-2018, 02:22 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-10-2018, 02:30 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by randomq - 09-10-2018, 06:04 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 09-10-2018, 06:51 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-10-2018, 06:59 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Guest - 09-10-2018, 07:51 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-10-2018, 08:05 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Guest - 09-10-2018, 08:08 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Guest - 09-10-2018, 08:33 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 09-10-2018, 11:27 AM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by ironyak - 09-10-2018, 12:38 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by Punatic007 - 09-10-2018, 02:28 PM
RE: Ruggles Excused - by PaulW - 09-10-2018, 03:25 PM

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