09-02-2018, 05:34 AM
Asphalt and concrete absorbing heat from the year round tropical sun and never completely cooling off. Hilo was much smaller, and had many fewer paved streets and buildings.
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changes in temps are due to changes in the area surrounding the measuring station.
Are temperatures higher in cities which now have more roads, runways, and buildings? Yes
Are temperatures higher at rural measuring stations with no substantive increase in roads or buildings, places like Mountain View or Waimea*? Yes
Why leave out that fact? Why tell only half the story? Isn't that perhaps flawed reasoning, or manipulating climate data, which you claim you're against?
* Farmers in Waimea have been forced to change the vegetable varieties they use on their farms, because daytime temperatures, nighttime temperatures, and rainfall totals all affect their crop, and those factors have all changed. This is happening all across the world to farmers, another group which, like the US Navy**, is not prone to a liberal stance or falling for half baked conspiracy theories.
** The US Navy is not "using climate change to justify their reasoning for more money for more boats." Any Seaman Apprentice at Pearl Harbor can tell you (or perhaps save time and read the article I linked which you you clearly didn't bother to read, yet felt a "reply" was necessary), that most of the planned changes by the Navy are focused on upgraded facilities due to rising sea levels (somewhat noticeable and important to the Navy), alternate sources of energy (solar, biodiesel) and supply chain links between Navy facilities and off base private companies.
Imagine if Hurricane Lane had dumped 50 inches of rain on Pearl Harbor and Honolulu instead of Mountain View? Could the Navy function as required? Think food, drinking & bathing water, HECO... Yes they can operate at emergency thresholds, but certainly nowhere near 100% efficiency. This might be acceptable in a once in 100 year scenario, but not once every 3 years or 5 years. That's what the Navy is planning for.
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changes in temps are due to changes in the area surrounding the measuring station.
Are temperatures higher in cities which now have more roads, runways, and buildings? Yes
Are temperatures higher at rural measuring stations with no substantive increase in roads or buildings, places like Mountain View or Waimea*? Yes
Why leave out that fact? Why tell only half the story? Isn't that perhaps flawed reasoning, or manipulating climate data, which you claim you're against?
* Farmers in Waimea have been forced to change the vegetable varieties they use on their farms, because daytime temperatures, nighttime temperatures, and rainfall totals all affect their crop, and those factors have all changed. This is happening all across the world to farmers, another group which, like the US Navy**, is not prone to a liberal stance or falling for half baked conspiracy theories.
** The US Navy is not "using climate change to justify their reasoning for more money for more boats." Any Seaman Apprentice at Pearl Harbor can tell you (or perhaps save time and read the article I linked which you you clearly didn't bother to read, yet felt a "reply" was necessary), that most of the planned changes by the Navy are focused on upgraded facilities due to rising sea levels (somewhat noticeable and important to the Navy), alternate sources of energy (solar, biodiesel) and supply chain links between Navy facilities and off base private companies.
Imagine if Hurricane Lane had dumped 50 inches of rain on Pearl Harbor and Honolulu instead of Mountain View? Could the Navy function as required? Think food, drinking & bathing water, HECO... Yes they can operate at emergency thresholds, but certainly nowhere near 100% efficiency. This might be acceptable in a once in 100 year scenario, but not once every 3 years or 5 years. That's what the Navy is planning for.
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