02-06-2019, 06:33 AM
glinda: (Hawaiians) tend to do more farming either commercially or in their own yards, than many other cultures here. You certainly can not say that about white people.
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Up until the 1970s, Puna was heavily populated with so called hippies. Many did not have cars; they lived in off-grid cabins, growing various crops, including pot. (A few amassed big money, most not at all).
Some people derided the hippies as bums, noting their acquisition of food stamps and their tendency to poach fruit. Some truth there. But certainly they were involved in "voluntary simplicity," living close to the land.
They dressed down, weren't preoccupied with who has the best new CD player. And they were mostly white.
Hawaiians, generalizing, seem to be fairly interested in material culture (like most of the rest of us). Acquiring nice vehicles, especially 4-wheel drives, getting the best new cell phone, a nice house. They seem to prefer a regular job more than any working-the-land situation.
Topic is worth discussion if we are going to try to generalize about cultural affinities for living in harmony with nature. And that is one of Hawaiians' big "cred" things, right?? Hawaiians' special love and reverence for nature, the aina.
(Incidentally, sociologists have observed that some cultures with a so-called tribal history tend to dislike farm work. It is a legacy of 400 years of European imperialism forcing people into agricultural work. This dislike regularly conflicts with these cultures professed closeness to the land. Hawaiians mostly avoided being forced into plantation work, if my history is correct, so there might not be relevance here.)
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Up until the 1970s, Puna was heavily populated with so called hippies. Many did not have cars; they lived in off-grid cabins, growing various crops, including pot. (A few amassed big money, most not at all).
Some people derided the hippies as bums, noting their acquisition of food stamps and their tendency to poach fruit. Some truth there. But certainly they were involved in "voluntary simplicity," living close to the land.
They dressed down, weren't preoccupied with who has the best new CD player. And they were mostly white.
Hawaiians, generalizing, seem to be fairly interested in material culture (like most of the rest of us). Acquiring nice vehicles, especially 4-wheel drives, getting the best new cell phone, a nice house. They seem to prefer a regular job more than any working-the-land situation.
Topic is worth discussion if we are going to try to generalize about cultural affinities for living in harmony with nature. And that is one of Hawaiians' big "cred" things, right?? Hawaiians' special love and reverence for nature, the aina.
(Incidentally, sociologists have observed that some cultures with a so-called tribal history tend to dislike farm work. It is a legacy of 400 years of European imperialism forcing people into agricultural work. This dislike regularly conflicts with these cultures professed closeness to the land. Hawaiians mostly avoided being forced into plantation work, if my history is correct, so there might not be relevance here.)