03-29-2019, 04:20 AM
Anyone know where this SUP stands now?
I believe it's being delayed until everyone gives up on the issue.
on the agenda for 3/7 but no approved minutes from that meeting yet?
It takes 6-8 weeks for minutes/transcripts to be published. Obviously a staffing issue, I'm sure Kim's new hires will fix that problem...
Anyway.
PCDP says businesses should be located in "commercial centers". (The lines around Pahoa are gerrymandered into a "dog bone" shape that allows commercial downtown and at the strip malls, but not between.) The reality is that these commercial centers are priced for corporations. See page 9:
QUINN: ... the issue with that is the strip malls charge right now Puna Kai $3/sf. ... Puna Kai Shopping Center also requests maintenance fee per thousand sf of $69 a month. They also would like to look at your books and take money, ten percent, of your gross profits. So the viability of us to move to one of these locations that the State or County feels is more acceptable is not there. It would cost us over $10,000 a month in fees and rent.
Page 12:
QUINN: What would happen is after 19 years of serving the community ... if it was denied, I would wait about four months or so, I'd put a for sale sign on that lot, and Pahoa Feed & Fertilizer would close down, and that would be it. There would be no feed and fertilizer store like there has been the past 19 years, and people would have to start driving to Hilo to purchase those products. ... Probably close up by I would say December-January, early next year and they we would close up.
The DOT issues would be more relevant with a higher speed limit, worse sight lines, and no traffic light nearby.
PCDP clearly states "no driveways on the highway". Ironically, permission for driveways on State highways comes from State, not County.
People want to develop Ag-zoned lands because they're inexpensive, which makes it possible for small business to actually turn a profit. County wants businesses to be located in "apporpriate zones" which either don't exist or aren't affordable, and new lands cannot be upzoned without triggering massive infrastructure requirements (which then make them unaffordable).
Amusing related issue: if Pahoa Feed & Fertilizer sold purely "ag" products, they would be considered "ag" for zoning purposes.
If any of the above doesn't make sense, look no further than the tenant lists for Puna Kai shopping center.
https://www.punakaishoppingcenter.com/
I believe it's being delayed until everyone gives up on the issue.
on the agenda for 3/7 but no approved minutes from that meeting yet?
It takes 6-8 weeks for minutes/transcripts to be published. Obviously a staffing issue, I'm sure Kim's new hires will fix that problem...
Anyway.
PCDP says businesses should be located in "commercial centers". (The lines around Pahoa are gerrymandered into a "dog bone" shape that allows commercial downtown and at the strip malls, but not between.) The reality is that these commercial centers are priced for corporations. See page 9:
QUINN: ... the issue with that is the strip malls charge right now Puna Kai $3/sf. ... Puna Kai Shopping Center also requests maintenance fee per thousand sf of $69 a month. They also would like to look at your books and take money, ten percent, of your gross profits. So the viability of us to move to one of these locations that the State or County feels is more acceptable is not there. It would cost us over $10,000 a month in fees and rent.
Page 12:
QUINN: What would happen is after 19 years of serving the community ... if it was denied, I would wait about four months or so, I'd put a for sale sign on that lot, and Pahoa Feed & Fertilizer would close down, and that would be it. There would be no feed and fertilizer store like there has been the past 19 years, and people would have to start driving to Hilo to purchase those products. ... Probably close up by I would say December-January, early next year and they we would close up.
The DOT issues would be more relevant with a higher speed limit, worse sight lines, and no traffic light nearby.
PCDP clearly states "no driveways on the highway". Ironically, permission for driveways on State highways comes from State, not County.
People want to develop Ag-zoned lands because they're inexpensive, which makes it possible for small business to actually turn a profit. County wants businesses to be located in "apporpriate zones" which either don't exist or aren't affordable, and new lands cannot be upzoned without triggering massive infrastructure requirements (which then make them unaffordable).
Amusing related issue: if Pahoa Feed & Fertilizer sold purely "ag" products, they would be considered "ag" for zoning purposes.
If any of the above doesn't make sense, look no further than the tenant lists for Puna Kai shopping center.
https://www.punakaishoppingcenter.com/