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1819 versus 1893
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07-23-2019, 08:40 AM
Yeah, a coup is still conquest. I don't debate its merits. But the Hawaiian Kingdom was not able to win militarily, technologically, politically, legally, financially, socially, or in any other way. Whatever gods were believed in at the time didn't intervene. Not saying it was right, but that's how it was. At least in this democracy it can be protested, challenged legally, and perhaps some middle ground found.
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1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-21-2019, 07:18 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Punatic007 - 07-21-2019, 07:35 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 07:48 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-21-2019, 08:04 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-21-2019, 08:23 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by glinda - 07-21-2019, 08:33 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 08:37 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by randomq - 07-21-2019, 08:42 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-21-2019, 08:48 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 08:54 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-21-2019, 09:15 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 09:28 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by EightFingers - 07-22-2019, 05:03 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by glinda - 07-22-2019, 05:20 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by MarkP - 07-22-2019, 06:28 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-22-2019, 06:56 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by glinda - 07-22-2019, 07:11 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Frank - 07-22-2019, 07:14 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-22-2019, 07:46 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by bananahead - 07-22-2019, 08:43 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by bananahead - 07-22-2019, 08:47 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-22-2019, 11:48 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by geochem - 07-22-2019, 01:09 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by VancouverIslander - 07-22-2019, 01:45 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-22-2019, 01:53 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by geochem - 07-23-2019, 04:09 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by glinda - 07-23-2019, 04:22 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by MarkP - 07-23-2019, 04:55 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by snorkle - 07-23-2019, 06:00 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 06:20 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 06:39 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 06:42 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-23-2019, 06:47 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 06:51 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by randomq - 07-23-2019, 08:40 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 09:16 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-23-2019, 10:01 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 10:12 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 10:48 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by reni - 07-23-2019, 02:53 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by randomq - 07-23-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 04:26 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by reni - 07-23-2019, 04:32 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 05:00 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by VancouverIslander - 07-25-2019, 02:33 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-25-2019, 03:26 AM
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