01-31-2020, 03:32 AM
TomK - What I didn't expect is ironyak putting words into my mouth and given such disrespect
I didn't put words in your mouth, I quoted your contradictory insistence that "I am interested in the veracity of the information, and the first step in that process is to know where the information comes from" while accusing others of committing an appeal-to-authority fallacy and falsely saying that people are "claiming professional credientials [sic] you don't have."
If you don't want disrespect then don't be so eager to dish it out.
TomK - I'm out of this discussion.
It's not like you were really contributing anything to the topic anyways. If you had bothered to read the information provided you might have saw the NERZ vent migration pattern actually quoted in the introduction to the 2017 Mauna Loa maps, which leads here (looks like the idea ended up in a publication after all).
https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geo...-migration
"Five times within the past 138 yr (1852, 1855-1856, 1880-1881, 1942, and 1984), lava flows from vents on the northeast rift zone of Mauna Loa Volcano have reached within a few kilometres of Hilo (the largest city on the Island of Hawaii). Most lavas erupted on this rift zone in historical time have traveled northeastward (toward Hilo), because their eruptive vents have been concentrated north of the rift zone's broad topographic axis. However, with few exceptions each successive historical eruption on the northeast rift zone has occurred farther southeast than the preceding one. Had the 1984 eruptive vents (the most southeasterly yet) opened less than 200 m farther southeast, the bulk of the 1984 lavas would have flowed away from Hilo. If this historical vent-migration pattern continues, the next eruption on the northeast rift zone could send lavas to the southeast, toward less populated areas." (emphasis mine)
So are Jack Lockwood's credentials good enough for you to bother to consider the idea? As I said, all the information you needed was already given, if you actually cared enough about the topic to read a couple pages. After all, to get the sweet pudding of understanding, you need to chew the meat of learning. (How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?)
It's a good thing you're out of this conversation otherwise an apology card might be expected from you - this one seem apropos:
https://cdn.ecommercedns.uk/files/7/2245...orcard.jpg
I didn't put words in your mouth, I quoted your contradictory insistence that "I am interested in the veracity of the information, and the first step in that process is to know where the information comes from" while accusing others of committing an appeal-to-authority fallacy and falsely saying that people are "claiming professional credientials [sic] you don't have."
If you don't want disrespect then don't be so eager to dish it out.
TomK - I'm out of this discussion.
It's not like you were really contributing anything to the topic anyways. If you had bothered to read the information provided you might have saw the NERZ vent migration pattern actually quoted in the introduction to the 2017 Mauna Loa maps, which leads here (looks like the idea ended up in a publication after all).
https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geo...-migration
"Five times within the past 138 yr (1852, 1855-1856, 1880-1881, 1942, and 1984), lava flows from vents on the northeast rift zone of Mauna Loa Volcano have reached within a few kilometres of Hilo (the largest city on the Island of Hawaii). Most lavas erupted on this rift zone in historical time have traveled northeastward (toward Hilo), because their eruptive vents have been concentrated north of the rift zone's broad topographic axis. However, with few exceptions each successive historical eruption on the northeast rift zone has occurred farther southeast than the preceding one. Had the 1984 eruptive vents (the most southeasterly yet) opened less than 200 m farther southeast, the bulk of the 1984 lavas would have flowed away from Hilo. If this historical vent-migration pattern continues, the next eruption on the northeast rift zone could send lavas to the southeast, toward less populated areas." (emphasis mine)
So are Jack Lockwood's credentials good enough for you to bother to consider the idea? As I said, all the information you needed was already given, if you actually cared enough about the topic to read a couple pages. After all, to get the sweet pudding of understanding, you need to chew the meat of learning. (How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?)
It's a good thing you're out of this conversation otherwise an apology card might be expected from you - this one seem apropos:
https://cdn.ecommercedns.uk/files/7/2245...orcard.jpg