04-02-2020, 08:35 AM
knieft - Anyway, the trouble is that "the map is not the territory" doesn't just refer to statistics vs reality, but the whole of our cognition vs reality. You are so sure that your whole cognition is the most accurate map of reality. And apparently any idea that doesn't match your map is to be dismissed as somehow inferior and ignorant, even compassionless and immoral.
My map isn't the reality by any means - I am acutely aware of this (what the hell do you think all the links are about? I don't rest on my off-the-cuff opinion for almost anything) I could point to hundreds of books to show how seriously I take this (my cog sci shelf is way past 1,2, many
. Regardless, my map is very well informed and hopefully oriented in a way that leads to whatever degree of positive outcome we can obtain from this. Sorry if I dismiss either the ostriches or the "isn't it interesting how insignificant and devoid of meaning life is" Nietzschean nihilistic perspective. You want to be dead, along with God, go for it, just try not to take a bunch of us with you please. (that's goes for everyone out there)
Point me to once where you highlighted the effect this event is having on people? You listen to David Kessler's interview on grief? You watched the videos of the kids dying in their beds and think about the kids you know? All I see is lots of small numerical percentages of deaths you keep highlighting. How can I believe the points you are making contain either compassion or morality when you have not bothered to include either?
When people quote statistics I just wish they had the balls to say what they are implying. Ok, 2,000,000 / 330,000,000 is 0.006 and... what exactly? Sucks to be them? Isn't that a tragedy it's more deaths than Cancer, Heart Disease, and Accidents all combined? F#ck em let God sort them out? What exactly is the point and implications of your statistical exercises?
And that would show, in part, how valuable and worthwhile social distancing is.
Valuable how exactly? Dollars and cents? Is it worth your time hanging out at home to only save 2 lives? 10 lives? 100? Again what is the number of dead required to say doing whatever we can is worthwhile? To you at least?
What resistance? Seriously. What are you talking about?
Either this is a joke or you lack self-awareness to an unfathomable degree. Maybe it's all just arguing for the f#ck of it? Idle entertainment while the world burns? Clearly it's not for me and I quickly reach my limit of bantering while you equivocate.
Or maybe you just want a card too?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/...L._AC_.jpg
My map isn't the reality by any means - I am acutely aware of this (what the hell do you think all the links are about? I don't rest on my off-the-cuff opinion for almost anything) I could point to hundreds of books to show how seriously I take this (my cog sci shelf is way past 1,2, many
. Regardless, my map is very well informed and hopefully oriented in a way that leads to whatever degree of positive outcome we can obtain from this. Sorry if I dismiss either the ostriches or the "isn't it interesting how insignificant and devoid of meaning life is" Nietzschean nihilistic perspective. You want to be dead, along with God, go for it, just try not to take a bunch of us with you please. (that's goes for everyone out there)Point me to once where you highlighted the effect this event is having on people? You listen to David Kessler's interview on grief? You watched the videos of the kids dying in their beds and think about the kids you know? All I see is lots of small numerical percentages of deaths you keep highlighting. How can I believe the points you are making contain either compassion or morality when you have not bothered to include either?
When people quote statistics I just wish they had the balls to say what they are implying. Ok, 2,000,000 / 330,000,000 is 0.006 and... what exactly? Sucks to be them? Isn't that a tragedy it's more deaths than Cancer, Heart Disease, and Accidents all combined? F#ck em let God sort them out? What exactly is the point and implications of your statistical exercises?
And that would show, in part, how valuable and worthwhile social distancing is.
Valuable how exactly? Dollars and cents? Is it worth your time hanging out at home to only save 2 lives? 10 lives? 100? Again what is the number of dead required to say doing whatever we can is worthwhile? To you at least?
What resistance? Seriously. What are you talking about?
Either this is a joke or you lack self-awareness to an unfathomable degree. Maybe it's all just arguing for the f#ck of it? Idle entertainment while the world burns? Clearly it's not for me and I quickly reach my limit of bantering while you equivocate.
Or maybe you just want a card too?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/...L._AC_.jpg