Kazumura Cave

[MikeyMike11]

• What you consider a 'national treasure' to be used as a way to make $ via tours and a cafe is viewed differently by others.  This lave tube system may be new to you, but it has a long history. Parts of it have a  paper trail of documentation, and parts of it are known only as oral history.  A few points that you should consider:There are many iwi ( burial bones ) in the Puna stretch of the tubes.  Many of the side tunnels are not detailed by maps even after having been explored because they are burial sites.
  

Yea, there are already people whoring this tube out, and I will not be one of them. I think you are projecting your fears on to what you THINK I am doing. Or perhaps you are one of the existing tour operators afraid of some healthy competition? Well rest assured that I am not offering tours, or plan to. This you would know if you had read through my comments more comprehensively.

• How would you plan on evacuating someone who was having a heart attack or a severe asthma episode because of a wave of volcanic gas?    Would you expect first responders to enter ?  What level of liability insurance would the county/state require you to carry ?
  

If you had read the link of the Hawaii Cave Law (which was vetoed by the Gov in 2008 actually) you will see that if an owner to an entrance does not charge a fee, there is no liability to incur.

You should read my comments a little more. When did I say I was offering tours? Go back and re-read what I wrote, I am not even planning on building permanent structures on my lot, as I do not want to cut any Ohia trees down... I mean it sounds like you have some pre-conceived notion of some giant tour company coming down there to bulldoze the rainforest. I have a STEM degree and treasure Mother Nature, as it is in my lifeblood. Maybe you should be more concerned with the current state of the tube, caused by the CURRENT tour operators, and not me. I wanted to open this up for educational and cultural reasons. With an over riding theme of preservation.

• Seeing how this idea of yours will affect your neighborhood is the first consideration:  learning the paperwork of a tour business and the health/sanitation requirements of a food establishment is a whole different kuleana.
  

Ummm, are you aware of the people already offering tours from their backyards? What about the AirBnB's right on top of the tubes? What about the lodges which serve food? Obviously people can get it done somehow, but there will always be those who say things are impossible. Those people usually don't do business, as it takes problem solving, logistics, and organization. Maybe you are upset with anyone intruding into YOUR Hawaii or something? I have managed restaurants before, do you just assume everyone is incapable of running a business?

• Pointing out obvious flaws to someone who has made grandiose plans that will affect their whole neighborhood before they even move here can be viewed in other ways.  And why do you need  a commercial tour / cafe enterprise take you into the caves  ?
  

Where did you get the notion I was even doing cave tours? I feel as if you are projecting your fears on me, when I specifically wrote this about my plans: "We want to open up the Sexton's Maze, and Eureka Falls for tours. My end goal is to open it to the public to explore on their own, and have a cafe up top, as we plan on farming the 3 acre portion we have with a food forest. I researched this cave for years before this came up for sale."

Or was it this comment I wrote that made you come to your conclusion: "My end goal is to preserve this national treasure, as best as one individual can do, and hope to connect with cavers and cave tour guides who may want to bring their groups down there."

I think you need to read my comments a little closer before you come to any conclusions about "my plans" I am well aware of the burial chambers and think it is a shame that some people dump their sewage into these Kapu. I am all about preservation. Again, you should really contain your judgements unless you are sure about what I am doing.

• Why would you even mention this on a public forum !?!    It says a lot about you.
  

This is public knowledge? You can look it up in the Hawaii Speleological Survey, and Hualālai is a mountain, and this is on private land, so it would be nearly impossible for anyone to find. But I see that you have passed your judgement on me already. I apologize for hurting your feelings and calling these caves a National Treasure. I am even more sorry you disagree with that,