(10-16-2021, 04:57 PM)kander Wrote:(10-16-2021, 02:54 PM)TomK Wrote: Your answer was "maybe?".Primary difference here is that you believe there will be no long term effects, I say Maybe because post vax sickness in individuals seems to be highly suspect.
And what the hell difference does it make? if you have a working vaccine, then it should not matter if anyone else besides you gets vaccinated. If this is "just like" any other vax then it works and provides you with a robust immunity to the disease, just like measles, or small pox or any other vaccine we have been using for decades.
At the end of the day what I say doesn't mean shit, well except to you because you keep coming back to engage in a circular argument.
Half the country is not going to take it. no matter what kind of burgers, lottery tickets, threats etc are given.
More and more doctors are either insane, or maybe they are on to something. here is another fascinating work of fiction. https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/06/world...of-terror/
Your previous response was "maybe?", i.e., with a question mark. That strongly suggests you don't have any evidence to back up your hypothesis that vaccinations are more dangerous than Covid. As Rob pointed out, we now have over 700,000 deaths in the US alone due to Covid. How many deaths have been caused by the vaccines? In Hawaii, we're approaching one thousand deaths from Covid. How many deaths in Hawaii have been caused by vaccinations?
And quite frankly, the https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/06/world...of-terror/ page is just another piece of quackery that is so common these days. A global plot to create a new world order? Seriously? That is all-out cultist nonsense. Does this mean previous pandemics were also plots to take over the world or just this one? Right now the only plot seems to be that idiots take over the world.
(10-16-2021, 11:15 PM)AaronM Wrote: Hawaii has always had limited medical resources. Wait times were not good before Covid. If you are need of healthcare, Hawaii is not the place to be.
Simple question. Who puts an even greater strain on Hawaii's healthcare system? Vaccinated or unvaccinated people?