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HISTORY AS PROMISED
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(10-18-2024, 05:24 PM)Obie Wrote:
(10-18-2024, 10:44 AM)My 2 cents Wrote: Thank you, I got in.

Who is paying for all these defense attorneys, D&O insurance or HPPOA? 

Either way, what a waste.  If all of this time and money could be spent on forcing the county to correct their wrongdoing none of this would be necessary.  Now and forever.
Yeah, what a waste.  Patricia's group of HPP haters found an attorney from California who owns a property in HPP. She is suing HPPOA and our President and Vice President.

A Go Fund Me Account is paying her bills and the group of HPP haters are funding it.
Owners association fees are paying the deductible amount and insurance will pick up the rest.

This group of haters are going to end up paying whether they win or lose.
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Aloha, My 2 Cents. Yes it is a waste. And it is one of the concerns that owners presented to the court decades ago- that any oversight owners have over HPPOA (formerly Paradise Hui Hanalike) to force them to comply with court orders and law, would require owners to sue, costing them much time and money. But Stuart Oda, who was HPPOA's lawyer at the time, waived that off as nonsense and convinced the court it was nothing to worry about. Years later, after lawsuit after lawsuit occurred, owners would request that the Court order that Paradise Hui Hanalike (now HPPOA) would have to use association money (their dues) and not restricted road fee money to pay for their legal costs- buy again, the courts blew off owners.
The current lawsuit is the result of board overreach and telling owners, literally to, "Bring it on!" I was at last year's April board meeting when this was yelled out by the VP. The lawyer to whom Mr. O refers, is a CA lawyer, who is a property owner, divides her time between HPP and CA, and was fed up with the board's "We can now do whatever we want," attitude. No one hired her and she donates much of her time and efforts (tens of thousands of dollars worth). She does have a Go Fund Me, which she set up to help defray her costs. You can look it up. The amount she has collected is less than $5,000. People are wary to contribute, because they do not want to be targeted by the board or their followers. I have never contributed and was still targeted by the board, who had their attorney send me a "Notice to Preserve Evidence." I have attached it, if your are interested in reading it.
I cannot speak for anyone else, but I do not hate anyone. At one point, in fact, I was pretty friendly with the current president and VP and I and others who Mr. O. now, apparently, thinks are "haters" spent a lot of our own time and money to help them get where they are (I am still kicking myself about this). 
Currently owners in HPP pay HPPOA $435 dollars a year (for every, 1 acre or less, lot they own). The HPPOA board has the ability to raise that amount by 10% every year. If they decide, once again this year, to raise the amount due for 2025, owners will be paying $480 per every 1 acre or less lot they own. The board and their supporters feel this is justifiable, given that HPP is such a large place and there is "so much more" than roads which HPPOA and their followers want. However, HPP owners are only obligated to pay for road maintenance not whatever else the board and their supporters want, which is why there is a lawsuit.
If you noticed, reading the docket, parties have been added to the law suit. These parties are legal counsel who represent the Watumull's. They are involved in the lawsuit, because HPPOA brought them in to "clarify" what the deed restrictions "mean" for the 4 parcels HPPOA has used for mailbox sites. The deed restrictions state the land can be used for Parks, Schools, and Recreation. Before the mailbox sites were built, HPPOA never got a release, regarding the deed restrictions. Instead, they have tried to smooth that over using the term "mail parks." If you look that term up on Google, you will not find it used anywhere, except in conjunction with HPPOA business.
I apologize for the length of this, but felt Mr
 O's inaccuracies need to be addressed.
Mahalo for your interest and patience.

   

Aloha, My 2 Cents. Here is the letter from one of the HPPOA attorneys. I could not get it to attach to my earlier reply.

Mahalo again-
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HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 09-29-2024, 12:47 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by TomK - 09-29-2024, 10:13 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 09-29-2024, 05:36 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Wao nahele wahine - 09-29-2024, 01:46 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 09-29-2024, 05:23 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by MyManao - 09-29-2024, 05:32 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by TomK - 09-30-2024, 08:06 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 09-29-2024, 06:47 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 09-29-2024, 08:28 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by oink - 09-30-2024, 02:10 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 09-30-2024, 03:54 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by MyManao - 09-30-2024, 05:16 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 09-30-2024, 05:57 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 09-30-2024, 08:44 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 09-30-2024, 06:43 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 09-30-2024, 07:28 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Olohana 1790 - 10-05-2024, 07:28 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Olohana 1790 - 10-05-2024, 08:31 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-10-2024, 10:31 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by jffields1969 - 10-10-2024, 08:38 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-10-2024, 08:45 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by kalakoa - 10-10-2024, 09:52 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-10-2024, 10:16 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-11-2024, 12:03 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by MyManao - 10-11-2024, 07:43 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-11-2024, 08:00 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by MyManao - 10-12-2024, 08:14 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-12-2024, 09:01 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-11-2024, 06:16 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-11-2024, 07:21 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-12-2024, 02:45 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-12-2024, 05:31 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-12-2024, 05:46 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by MyManao - 10-12-2024, 07:39 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-12-2024, 06:25 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-12-2024, 10:52 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-12-2024, 07:12 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-12-2024, 07:31 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-12-2024, 07:56 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-12-2024, 09:45 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-12-2024, 10:41 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-12-2024, 11:47 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-13-2024, 12:33 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-13-2024, 12:40 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-13-2024, 02:54 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-13-2024, 03:03 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by leilanidude - 10-13-2024, 02:31 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-13-2024, 05:00 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by leilanidude - 10-13-2024, 05:07 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-13-2024, 05:12 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by MyManao - 10-13-2024, 10:27 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Punatang - 10-14-2024, 01:06 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-14-2024, 12:30 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by kalakoa - 10-14-2024, 07:16 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by MyManao - 10-14-2024, 07:29 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-14-2024, 09:42 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by TomK - 10-20-2024, 11:16 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by leilanidude - 10-14-2024, 09:49 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-14-2024, 10:00 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-14-2024, 10:54 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-15-2024, 01:42 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by ChunksterK - 10-15-2024, 02:00 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-15-2024, 03:13 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-15-2024, 02:46 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by ChunksterK - 10-15-2024, 03:04 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by ChunksterK - 10-15-2024, 03:31 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-15-2024, 03:38 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-15-2024, 04:07 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-15-2024, 04:16 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Rob Tucker - 10-15-2024, 04:55 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-15-2024, 05:02 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-15-2024, 11:26 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-15-2024, 04:58 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-16-2024, 11:36 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-16-2024, 05:20 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-17-2024, 09:03 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-17-2024, 10:55 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-18-2024, 02:10 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-18-2024, 03:07 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-18-2024, 06:41 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-18-2024, 07:14 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-18-2024, 10:44 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-18-2024, 05:24 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-18-2024, 07:37 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-18-2024, 05:12 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-18-2024, 09:23 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Chas - 10-18-2024, 05:24 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-19-2024, 09:12 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-19-2024, 05:11 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-19-2024, 10:40 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-20-2024, 01:48 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-20-2024, 11:02 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-20-2024, 03:57 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-21-2024, 05:50 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by ChunksterK - 10-22-2024, 12:35 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-22-2024, 01:42 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by My 2 cents - 10-26-2024, 02:21 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by leilanidude - 10-26-2024, 05:08 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-26-2024, 09:41 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-26-2024, 09:49 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-26-2024, 10:10 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-26-2024, 10:31 PM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Obie - 10-27-2024, 12:06 AM
RE: HISTORY AS PROMISED - by Patricia - 10-27-2024, 12:35 AM

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