(11-06-2024, 05:12 AM)HiloJulie Wrote:-----(11-06-2024, 04:35 AM)Obie Wrote: Yeah, mermaid was the vice president of HPPOA and there was no paving for at least a year.
Right now we have been gifted 3 million dollars worth of mailboxes.
About half of them have been installed in the 2 lower mail-parks.
Volunteers are meeting at each park and spending some time doing landscaping.
What would you do ??
(11-06-2024, 04:42 AM)Patricia Wrote: Aloha Mr. O,
Why are you fixating on Mermaid?
And when did one million in "gifted mailboxes" become three million?
Still, placing all those "gifted" mailboxes on restricted land, and then blaming others because you did not properly "play out" the correct process in court... Well, that sounds like a mess and a breach of Fiduciary Duty to me.
First, I’d get on the same page. According to June, 2024 “The Conch” the official newsletter of HPP, the US Postal Service has put up 2 million in “hardware” (mail boxes) and 500K in cash for related installation. Further, HPPOA has put up a little over 500K in cash costs.
So – A little over 3 million IN TOTAL. USPS at 2.5 million, HPPOA at 500K.
Bantering around dollar figures with 2-million-dollar differences and varied sources serves no purpose whatsoever.
The Conch June 2024
As for what I would specifically do?
More like I would have done. A decade plus ago when all this started. I would have suggested the Board get HPPOA to acquire 4 strategically positioned 1 acre lots throughout HPPOA as owned assets of HPPOA. Cleared and improved them and then negotiated with the USPS for the boxes and installation help on each of those 4 separate lots.
But at this point, it’s trying to put toothpaste back into the tube. And if this lawsuit ends against HPPOA, any and all costs for legal expenses as well as damages will pale in comparison to HPPOA’s debt to the USPS for the original 2.5 million.
Aloha HiloJulie,
The Conch may state 2 million. But our fearless leader (president) and several other BOD stated 1 million when all of this mess started (back at the close of 2022- yes, that long). Also, if you look at the costs for prepping the sites, etc. Well... those figures aren't the same either.
And yes, maybe HPPOA should have bought acreage. But then, maybe the USPS should have stepped up too and come up with workable alternatives.
I appreciate you input.
(11-06-2024, 05:18 AM)Patricia Wrote:--------(11-06-2024, 05:12 AM)HiloJulie Wrote:-----(11-06-2024, 04:35 AM)Obie Wrote: Yeah, mermaid was the vice president of HPPOA and there was no paving for at least a year.
Right now we have been gifted 3 million dollars worth of mailboxes.
About half of them have been installed in the 2 lower mail-parks.
Volunteers are meeting at each park and spending some time doing landscaping.
What would you do ??
(11-06-2024, 04:42 AM)Patricia Wrote: Aloha Mr. O,
Why are you fixating on Mermaid?
And when did one million in "gifted mailboxes" become three million?
Still, placing all those "gifted" mailboxes on restricted land, and then blaming others because you did not properly "play out" the correct process in court... Well, that sounds like a mess and a breach of Fiduciary Duty to me.
First, I’d get on the same page. According to June, 2024 “The Conch” the official newsletter of HPP, the US Postal Service has put up 2 million in “hardware” (mail boxes) and 500K in cash for related installation. Further, HPPOA has put up a little over 500K in cash costs.
So – A little over 3 million IN TOTAL. USPS at 2.5 million, HPPOA at 500K.
Bantering around dollar figures with 2-million-dollar differences and varied sources serves no purpose whatsoever.
The Conch June 2024
As for what I would specifically do?
More like I would have done. A decade plus ago when all this started. I would have suggested the Board get HPPOA to acquire 4 strategically positioned 1 acre lots throughout HPPOA as owned assets of HPPOA. Cleared and improved them and then negotiated with the USPS for the boxes and installation help on each of those 4 separate lots.
But at this point, it’s trying to put toothpaste back into the tube. And if this lawsuit ends against HPPOA, any and all costs for legal expenses as well as damages will pale in comparison to HPPOA’s debt to the USPS for the original 2.5 million.
Aloha HiloJulie,
The Conch may state 2 million. But our fearless leader (president) and several other BOD stated 1 million when all of this mess started (back at the close of 2022- yes, that long). Also, if you look at the costs for prepping the sites, etc. Well... those figures aren't the same either.
And yes, maybe HPPOA should have bought acreage. But then, maybe the USPS should have stepped up too and come up with workable alternatives.
I appreciate you input.
Also, owners/members have never been told that the USPS invested any amounts in cash ($500K ? Where?)