10-30-2007, 10:45 AM
point taken, Bob.
Although to me it is already lost.
I won't swim in areas where the risk of bacterial infection is up ... the ocean is bad enough, based on Hawai`i Island Journal's article on MRSA in Hawaiian waters (this issue).
Menehune
you wrote--I really feel for the people who have been born here or have lived here long enough to have enjoyed the unspoiled beauty of these islands and the Big Island specifically
Just to be clear about Champagne Pond, this isn't in the good old days we used to go there and enjoy a light crowd ... more like a year or two!
That's not true. The shoreline is open to everyone coming from the sea or by walking along the shoreline, or by access easements or by public roads. No cutting through people's yards unless that yard has an easement attached.
I mean, people do it (especially if they consider Big Island Revealed to be their Bible), but it's not OK.
I was unaware until I read this topic that the lava roads from the lighthouse area were made illegally or shouldn't have been made. Is that State land or County? I suppose they or DNLR could gate the road if they didn't want it used.
Anyhow, the shoreline access law is complicated. There are plenty of rules. It's not a free-for-all everyone-do-whatever-is-necessary-to-get-to-the-ocean law.
Although to me it is already lost.
I won't swim in areas where the risk of bacterial infection is up ... the ocean is bad enough, based on Hawai`i Island Journal's article on MRSA in Hawaiian waters (this issue).
Menehune
you wrote--I really feel for the people who have been born here or have lived here long enough to have enjoyed the unspoiled beauty of these islands and the Big Island specifically
Just to be clear about Champagne Pond, this isn't in the good old days we used to go there and enjoy a light crowd ... more like a year or two!
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This concept bugs me: All shoreline is open to the people. The people need to get to the shoreline - if there is an impediment - man made or natural - legal or illegal - going around it, over it or thru it is an acceptable practice - laws, permits, whatever do not apply.
That's not true. The shoreline is open to everyone coming from the sea or by walking along the shoreline, or by access easements or by public roads. No cutting through people's yards unless that yard has an easement attached.
I mean, people do it (especially if they consider Big Island Revealed to be their Bible), but it's not OK.
I was unaware until I read this topic that the lava roads from the lighthouse area were made illegally or shouldn't have been made. Is that State land or County? I suppose they or DNLR could gate the road if they didn't want it used.
Anyhow, the shoreline access law is complicated. There are plenty of rules. It's not a free-for-all everyone-do-whatever-is-necessary-to-get-to-the-ocean law.