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How to Slow Growth
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The problems with Prop 13 are numerous, especially troubling are that Corporations, in 1800's were granted the status of individual, and there fore qualified for the prop 13 benefits also! It was to help older people who worked their whole lives contributing to society, to be able to keep their homes with some tax relief, well it went well beyond that!

The California initiative was set up for the public to have a say in the governing of the state and get representatives attention with areas important to the public, education, police, fire departments ad infinitum. Unfortunately that process is no longer grass roots either. Corporations, and organizations with agendas usurped the citizen initiative process thru straw men organizations in my opinion.

I think going back to the old west might not be a bad idea, stick to the basics. When communities started establishing themselves, first they wanted education for their young, a sheriff, and fire squadrons. It has gone so far beyond the basic needs that it's now cancerous in epic proportions.

Where does California's Governator want to cut as the budget is spiraling, education, sheriff and fire. Go figure. Don't touch the third rail of corporations. Don't touch medical insurance, investor profits from the misery of the medically challenged masses. He ran on over Grey Davis for his budget woes, promising to get the fat and corruption out, but forgot to cut up the credit cards and here we are again. Oh well why am I so cynical, read too much?

The California way is not one I wish to see implemented in Hawaii, I just hope the citizenry has a little more say there!

mella l
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How to Slow Growth - by marlin - 01-09-2008, 07:27 PM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by gtill - 01-10-2008, 12:49 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Guest - 01-10-2008, 03:07 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Bob Orts - 01-10-2008, 03:54 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by mikewj - 01-10-2008, 03:58 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Rob Tucker - 01-10-2008, 05:00 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Bob Orts - 01-10-2008, 06:37 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by JohnS - 01-10-2008, 07:56 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Guest - 01-10-2008, 08:48 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by gtill - 01-10-2008, 01:44 PM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Kapohocat - 01-11-2008, 05:37 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Rob Tucker - 01-11-2008, 06:00 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by jdirgo - 01-11-2008, 06:53 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Seeb - 01-11-2008, 06:00 PM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Kapohocat - 01-12-2008, 05:13 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by gtill - 01-16-2008, 03:01 PM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by rbbyrd - 01-20-2008, 03:25 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Kapohocat - 01-20-2008, 06:53 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by mgeary - 01-20-2008, 02:38 PM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by mella l - 01-21-2008, 04:08 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by marlin - 01-21-2008, 10:34 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by bodysurf - 01-21-2008, 03:01 PM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Bob Orts - 01-22-2008, 03:17 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by bodysurf - 01-24-2008, 07:08 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Bob Orts - 01-24-2008, 10:15 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by bodysurf - 01-26-2008, 05:21 PM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Bob Orts - 01-29-2008, 05:44 AM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by gtill - 02-04-2008, 12:39 PM
RE: How to Slow Growth - by Bob Orts - 02-04-2008, 02:09 PM

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