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Speed traps on Hwy 130
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Originally posted by james weatherford

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It worries me when fellow people cry for more policing,


The only reason to be worried is if you are one of the scofflaws.

We have people killing and maiming other people on Hwy 130! That is a crime.


James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park


That isn't the only reason to be worried, Mr. Weatherford. I'm not sure what a scofflaw is, but since I've never been called one I guess I don't have to worry...[8D]

I've done my research on the results of asking for more government intervention. Would you say that people are better off the majority of the time? I definitely would not. That action should be a last resort.

Before asking for more policing from the ground as well as in the air (!!!) perhaps we should see what effect sustaining current efforts can bring about. For instance, what are the numbers of stops after a week of these "traps" as compared to the first day? That would show the trend. If we can utilize the police force that we have already and have them letting their presence be well known on that stretch, then people will likely think twice before acting crazy on that road. Since we aren't using those resources to full capacity (or haven't been) it seems unlikely that we would use new and more expensive resources any more effectively. It seems a bit extreme as well, and a bit conflicting, the call of, "Bring in the Choppers, People are being Murdered! now let's set about a several years long process of bulking up our mass transit and getting people to carpool and bulking up Puna so people don't have to leave there as much." It also seems to me that this thinking is what has swept across America, making each town a mirror of the next with the same issues and feel...

Also, double lanes from the high school to the end of Ainaloa? You think that would increase traffic? Did the double lanes coming off the highway and ending just after the high school cause more traffic? Regardless, the traffic's there. No armchair engineering needed. Do you think a double lane in Kona would bring more traffic? I'm curious in your research if the roads you're talking about were the only way into and out of a particular area... Usually cities, towns have more than one way in. Not so in this case. It makes sense that if drivers could choose between two routes that a better designed road would end up getting more traffic...
Melissa Fletcher
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Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kahunascott - 08-06-2008, 11:35 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-07-2008, 05:25 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Hotzcatz - 08-07-2008, 06:06 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Lokahi - 08-07-2008, 06:38 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-07-2008, 07:02 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by gtill - 08-07-2008, 07:02 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by missydog1 - 08-07-2008, 07:09 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by robguz - 08-07-2008, 07:38 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-07-2008, 10:20 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-07-2008, 12:01 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by rbakker - 08-07-2008, 05:21 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 08-07-2008, 05:27 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Chuysmom - 08-07-2008, 05:38 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by waynesb - 08-07-2008, 06:38 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Chuysmom - 08-07-2008, 07:00 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Beachboy - 08-07-2008, 11:58 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-08-2008, 04:10 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Punamom - 08-08-2008, 09:01 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-08-2008, 10:05 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by waynesb - 08-08-2008, 12:28 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 08-08-2008, 07:02 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-09-2008, 02:54 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by amf217 - 08-09-2008, 03:55 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Chuysmom - 08-09-2008, 07:28 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 08-09-2008, 09:06 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by robguz - 08-10-2008, 06:34 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-10-2008, 06:38 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-10-2008, 03:54 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Big_Island - 08-11-2008, 02:27 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-11-2008, 03:38 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by robguz - 08-11-2008, 04:11 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by YurtGirl - 08-11-2008, 05:47 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by missydog1 - 08-11-2008, 09:38 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by mattastic78 - 08-11-2008, 10:05 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Rob Tucker - 08-11-2008, 11:21 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by YurtGirl - 08-11-2008, 01:12 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-11-2008, 04:49 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-11-2008, 04:53 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-12-2008, 04:02 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by YurtGirl - 08-12-2008, 04:28 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-12-2008, 04:49 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Greg - 08-12-2008, 05:00 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by JerryCarr - 08-12-2008, 05:38 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-12-2008, 10:04 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by missydog1 - 08-12-2008, 10:57 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by YurtGirl - 08-12-2008, 04:18 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-12-2008, 06:27 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by missydog1 - 08-12-2008, 08:46 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-13-2008, 02:05 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 02:35 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-13-2008, 03:09 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by mikewj - 08-13-2008, 03:46 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by mattastic78 - 08-13-2008, 04:04 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 04:09 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-13-2008, 04:28 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by AlohaSteven - 08-13-2008, 04:40 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by YurtGirl - 08-13-2008, 05:20 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by mattastic78 - 08-13-2008, 05:34 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by missydog1 - 08-13-2008, 06:29 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Likalizard - 08-13-2008, 06:43 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 08-13-2008, 06:46 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by oink - 08-13-2008, 07:25 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-13-2008, 07:28 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by missydog1 - 08-13-2008, 07:57 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by oink - 08-13-2008, 08:59 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Rob Tucker - 08-13-2008, 09:16 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by topograph - 08-13-2008, 09:29 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 12:31 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 01:02 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by gtill - 08-13-2008, 01:22 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Bob Orts - 08-13-2008, 01:33 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kelena - 08-13-2008, 02:00 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-13-2008, 03:02 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 03:04 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 03:08 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 08-13-2008, 03:09 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 03:12 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by gtill - 08-13-2008, 03:27 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 03:31 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-13-2008, 04:04 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-13-2008, 04:57 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 08-13-2008, 06:12 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-13-2008, 11:56 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-14-2008, 01:49 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by EightFingers - 08-14-2008, 03:33 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Bob Orts - 08-14-2008, 03:40 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-14-2008, 04:17 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 08-14-2008, 06:40 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-14-2008, 12:51 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Bob Orts - 08-14-2008, 01:58 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-15-2008, 06:25 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by EightFingers - 08-15-2008, 06:29 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-15-2008, 06:56 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by LifeGoesOn - 08-15-2008, 09:41 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-15-2008, 10:23 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-15-2008, 10:45 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-15-2008, 12:44 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Bob Orts - 08-15-2008, 01:34 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-15-2008, 04:02 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by waynesb - 08-15-2008, 06:08 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-16-2008, 01:38 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by YurtGirl - 08-16-2008, 07:44 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-16-2008, 08:50 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by YurtGirl - 08-16-2008, 09:48 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by olin137 - 08-16-2008, 03:00 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by YurtGirl - 08-16-2008, 04:02 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by rbakker - 08-16-2008, 09:08 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by james weatherford - 08-17-2008, 01:47 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by StillHope - 08-17-2008, 02:35 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Beachboy - 08-17-2008, 02:37 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by DanielP - 08-17-2008, 03:28 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-17-2008, 05:44 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Liz - 08-17-2008, 06:09 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by missydog1 - 08-17-2008, 08:44 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Kapohocat - 08-17-2008, 11:56 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by waynesb - 08-17-2008, 04:46 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by rbakker - 08-17-2008, 06:26 PM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 08-26-2008, 10:43 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by cwoods61 - 08-30-2008, 07:29 AM
RE: Speed traps on Hwy 130 - by Guest - 09-01-2008, 06:06 PM

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