10-20-2008, 05:14 AM
Sorry Rob, I just don't think it is my or the "collectives" responsibility to pay for free medical care, free food, free clothing, free housing or free education for that matter. There are Utopian gardens of Eden like North Korea and Cuba where the state enforces the "From those according to their ability, to those according to their needs" but those Marxist ideals are antithetical to the human spirit and cause misery universally and absolutely.
When a government starts down the path of confiscating your corn and redistributing it, they will also have to set up gulags and a secret police to squash dissent.
Medical care is way over priced because most of it is paid for with a 3rd party payer system. (Private insurance, Medicaid, Medicare, etc) If you could go to the grocery store and get any and every thing you wanted and just charge it to a 3rd party, your shopping and eating habits would change.
If there was no private or public health insurance, doctors would become very competitive. Basic medical care would be affordable. When it comes to radical or major trauma there is almost no limit to how much money can be thrown at a condition. Hospitals, Medical device companies and drug companies make fortunes from this. I have no problem if you have worked hard, saved and sacrificed to gain wealth and you want to pay for a quadruple bypass for your 85-year-old grandmother. I just think that is like putting a brand new engine and transmission in a 1974 pinto. Trading money for things is a system where people get exactly what they disserve.
Money is not just a measure of how hard or how much you work, but also how smart you work and how much you are willing to sacrifice by doing without and saving.
In the world there are always going to be slackers, I just don’t see where giving them anything free is going to make less of them.
Maybe there should be a special premium that socialist could pay so that all there socialist friends could have all the socialist benefits. Then these socialists could take their socialist children to the socialist clinic. Oh wait a tick, there already is a system like that, it goes under different names, Kaiser Permanente, Blue Cross, blue shield are a two.
In the U.K. where they have socialized medicine:
“The National Health Service, Britain’s government-run health care system, finds itself so unresponsive that it doesn’t trust itself to provide care for its employees. Instead, they paid private physiotherapists to treat its staff rather than wait for NHS providers to become available”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi...ately.html
But I agree about the shame of politicians giving themselves pay increases. That should be subjected to a popular vote.
When a government starts down the path of confiscating your corn and redistributing it, they will also have to set up gulags and a secret police to squash dissent.
Medical care is way over priced because most of it is paid for with a 3rd party payer system. (Private insurance, Medicaid, Medicare, etc) If you could go to the grocery store and get any and every thing you wanted and just charge it to a 3rd party, your shopping and eating habits would change.
If there was no private or public health insurance, doctors would become very competitive. Basic medical care would be affordable. When it comes to radical or major trauma there is almost no limit to how much money can be thrown at a condition. Hospitals, Medical device companies and drug companies make fortunes from this. I have no problem if you have worked hard, saved and sacrificed to gain wealth and you want to pay for a quadruple bypass for your 85-year-old grandmother. I just think that is like putting a brand new engine and transmission in a 1974 pinto. Trading money for things is a system where people get exactly what they disserve.
Money is not just a measure of how hard or how much you work, but also how smart you work and how much you are willing to sacrifice by doing without and saving.
In the world there are always going to be slackers, I just don’t see where giving them anything free is going to make less of them.
Maybe there should be a special premium that socialist could pay so that all there socialist friends could have all the socialist benefits. Then these socialists could take their socialist children to the socialist clinic. Oh wait a tick, there already is a system like that, it goes under different names, Kaiser Permanente, Blue Cross, blue shield are a two.
In the U.K. where they have socialized medicine:
“The National Health Service, Britain’s government-run health care system, finds itself so unresponsive that it doesn’t trust itself to provide care for its employees. Instead, they paid private physiotherapists to treat its staff rather than wait for NHS providers to become available”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi...ately.html
But I agree about the shame of politicians giving themselves pay increases. That should be subjected to a popular vote.