01-13-2009, 02:22 PM
Interesting topic. As with most topics of this nature we/you/y'all can put forth all the opinions and heartfelt stories and even a few facts sprinkled in here and there but you WILL NOT sway either side from their opinions. But just for grins lets throw out a couple of facts here.
No matter what you say and/or who you say it too Marijuana has NO addictive qualities. Is this clear? It is not addictive! Now, this is a fact it does not change regardless of what position you take.
A gateway drug? I guess so in the same sense that you do have to deal with the same scum bags that sell other drugs. Off hand I can think of several people that have publicly admitted to smoking pot, Clinton, Bush and Obama. Hmm.. they must have missed the "gateway" to..
So when you discuss a plant type that has less harmful properties than alcohol and cigarettes and you try as you may to make it into something that is certainly not you're not actually dealing with reality, or the facts.
When you take the facts and apply them to reality the unbiased person can see the obvious irony in the fact that a bunch of DRUNKARD fat greedy alcoholic politicians have no right to tell anyone they shouldn't smoke pot in their home. But you will have to deal with FACTS to see this. This is one of the most hypocritical things I've ever seen.
One more fact, while I'm up, I have never in 4 years as an EMT and EMS driver extracted a body, alive or dead, from a car/truck that smelled like pot. On the other hand I have repeatedly retrieved people and parts of people from vehicles that smelled like alcohol.
In Texas, yeah I said it, the sheriffs association as well as countless other Police associations recently supported the decriminalization of marijuana. (Basically they can now right you a ticket for under one ounce, officers discretion) Cops think "it's a waste of time to be running people to jail for smoking pot when their time could be better spent fighting real crime issues." (Not my words, facts!)
Opps, one more fact. I was born and raised in TX in the 1960-80s. I went to an inner city High School with forced busing ie; 60% black students brought across town to go to school, police in the halls and on the school busses. I saw people pee in lockers and saw a kid thrown out of an upstairs window. Most everybody was smoking pot, at the least. Where are they now? Ok three of them died on Motorcycles. One of them is a CEO of his own computer co. another runs a fortune 500 company. Two guys are running their family companies. I know a couple of guys went to jail and one of them is doing pretty good today if you consider owning thirty plus furniture stores good. Add to that several lawyers and doctors and a state Representative. Oh yeah did I mention that 13 people that I went to school with in High School have died in DWI related accidents, that number goes up if you count college friends.
I dont drink or smoke anything.. that's a fact that results in wht's called an an un-biased opinion. If they really wanted to stop DWIs they wouldn't let Bars have parking lots..
Just the facts.. don't let em screw up your discussion folks..
Blessings,
dave
"It doesn't mean that much to me.. to mean that much to you." Neil Young
No matter what you say and/or who you say it too Marijuana has NO addictive qualities. Is this clear? It is not addictive! Now, this is a fact it does not change regardless of what position you take.
A gateway drug? I guess so in the same sense that you do have to deal with the same scum bags that sell other drugs. Off hand I can think of several people that have publicly admitted to smoking pot, Clinton, Bush and Obama. Hmm.. they must have missed the "gateway" to..
So when you discuss a plant type that has less harmful properties than alcohol and cigarettes and you try as you may to make it into something that is certainly not you're not actually dealing with reality, or the facts.
When you take the facts and apply them to reality the unbiased person can see the obvious irony in the fact that a bunch of DRUNKARD fat greedy alcoholic politicians have no right to tell anyone they shouldn't smoke pot in their home. But you will have to deal with FACTS to see this. This is one of the most hypocritical things I've ever seen.
One more fact, while I'm up, I have never in 4 years as an EMT and EMS driver extracted a body, alive or dead, from a car/truck that smelled like pot. On the other hand I have repeatedly retrieved people and parts of people from vehicles that smelled like alcohol.
In Texas, yeah I said it, the sheriffs association as well as countless other Police associations recently supported the decriminalization of marijuana. (Basically they can now right you a ticket for under one ounce, officers discretion) Cops think "it's a waste of time to be running people to jail for smoking pot when their time could be better spent fighting real crime issues." (Not my words, facts!)
Opps, one more fact. I was born and raised in TX in the 1960-80s. I went to an inner city High School with forced busing ie; 60% black students brought across town to go to school, police in the halls and on the school busses. I saw people pee in lockers and saw a kid thrown out of an upstairs window. Most everybody was smoking pot, at the least. Where are they now? Ok three of them died on Motorcycles. One of them is a CEO of his own computer co. another runs a fortune 500 company. Two guys are running their family companies. I know a couple of guys went to jail and one of them is doing pretty good today if you consider owning thirty plus furniture stores good. Add to that several lawyers and doctors and a state Representative. Oh yeah did I mention that 13 people that I went to school with in High School have died in DWI related accidents, that number goes up if you count college friends.
I dont drink or smoke anything.. that's a fact that results in wht's called an an un-biased opinion. If they really wanted to stop DWIs they wouldn't let Bars have parking lots..
Just the facts.. don't let em screw up your discussion folks..
Blessings,
dave
"It doesn't mean that much to me.. to mean that much to you." Neil Young
Blessings,
dave
"It doesn't mean that much to me.. to mean that much to you." Neil Young
dave
"It doesn't mean that much to me.. to mean that much to you." Neil Young