01-14-2009, 01:38 AM
Ok, I'll bite. What does this statement have to do with the constitution?
Honestly if you can't see that peoples rights to live their own lifes and do what they want in their own home reflects our constitution, then there's not much more I can say. There should be no double standard merely because the Alchohol & Tobacco lobbyist pay the big bucks.
I do speak from experience. I would be happy to share my knowledge with any Troopers that are interested. The pot odors are mild enough that they are overwhelmed by the stronger crash odors, of which their are many.
If you truly had experience in this area you would not be posting this. I seriously doubt that you could contribute anything of value to the Department of Public safety. I don't mean to be an a hole but look at your post. It's obvious that you experience in this area is limited if not biased.
Blood tests from crash scenes don't test for everything, only those substances requested. If alcohol is detected or suspected then that will be the test. If there is no alcohol evidence but pot is found, then the blood will be tested for pot. Blood tests do not reveal all, only what is requested that it be tested for.
Unfortunatley your wrong, It's called a (CBC) Complete Blood Check. The officers do not request a test for a specific substance.
Standard field sobriety tests are not effective for substances other than alcohol. A very few officers will be certified as DRE (drug recognition experts). Alcohol is responsible for more crashes than is pot. No doubt.
I'm not talking about "Field Sobriety Test". That has no relevence to my post.
Pot is also a contributor. Most pot users seen on the road will also be abusing alcohol or another drug.
Maybe in the teenage years and thats a maybe, but in general you're just throwing out opinions.
The jails are not filled with harmless potheads although they hold a few marijuana dealers and traffickers. Even when pot users are arrested for possession of misdemeanor amounts, they are not incarcerated long, unless they have an extensive prior history or are currently on probation. If you're on probation for any crime and choose to be out smoking pot, then too bad. You're an idiot and are probably safer in jail.
Actually it's called the three strikes law and there are many people in jail for possesion of pot. But I wouldn't expect this, fact, to matter to anyone that hasa different opinion. Remember what I said in my first post:
"Interesting topic. As with most topics of this nature we/you/y'all can put forth all the opinions and heartfelt stories and even a few facts sprinkled in here and there but you WILL NOT sway either side from their opinions."
It's really hard to deal with me on this subject for several reasons; First of all, factually I'm right. Second, I have no use for either drugs or alchohol therefore I'm unbiased. Third, and most important, I'm a constitutionalist (or quickly becoming one)being such I have watched many of mine and your constitutional rights being trampled on. This last issue should be key to any person be they Republican or Democrat. It amazes me how people can watch the federal government take away State Rights as well as individual's constitutional rights. I guess it's easy when it's someone elses rights but wait until it's your rights.
This is my last response on this topic because like I said it's hopeless to think that I can sway anybodies opinion on line.
Blessings,
dave
"It doesn't mean that much to me.. to mean that much to you." Neil Young
Honestly if you can't see that peoples rights to live their own lifes and do what they want in their own home reflects our constitution, then there's not much more I can say. There should be no double standard merely because the Alchohol & Tobacco lobbyist pay the big bucks.
I do speak from experience. I would be happy to share my knowledge with any Troopers that are interested. The pot odors are mild enough that they are overwhelmed by the stronger crash odors, of which their are many.
If you truly had experience in this area you would not be posting this. I seriously doubt that you could contribute anything of value to the Department of Public safety. I don't mean to be an a hole but look at your post. It's obvious that you experience in this area is limited if not biased.
Blood tests from crash scenes don't test for everything, only those substances requested. If alcohol is detected or suspected then that will be the test. If there is no alcohol evidence but pot is found, then the blood will be tested for pot. Blood tests do not reveal all, only what is requested that it be tested for.
Unfortunatley your wrong, It's called a (CBC) Complete Blood Check. The officers do not request a test for a specific substance.
Standard field sobriety tests are not effective for substances other than alcohol. A very few officers will be certified as DRE (drug recognition experts). Alcohol is responsible for more crashes than is pot. No doubt.
I'm not talking about "Field Sobriety Test". That has no relevence to my post.
Pot is also a contributor. Most pot users seen on the road will also be abusing alcohol or another drug.
Maybe in the teenage years and thats a maybe, but in general you're just throwing out opinions.
The jails are not filled with harmless potheads although they hold a few marijuana dealers and traffickers. Even when pot users are arrested for possession of misdemeanor amounts, they are not incarcerated long, unless they have an extensive prior history or are currently on probation. If you're on probation for any crime and choose to be out smoking pot, then too bad. You're an idiot and are probably safer in jail.
Actually it's called the three strikes law and there are many people in jail for possesion of pot. But I wouldn't expect this, fact, to matter to anyone that hasa different opinion. Remember what I said in my first post:
"Interesting topic. As with most topics of this nature we/you/y'all can put forth all the opinions and heartfelt stories and even a few facts sprinkled in here and there but you WILL NOT sway either side from their opinions."
It's really hard to deal with me on this subject for several reasons; First of all, factually I'm right. Second, I have no use for either drugs or alchohol therefore I'm unbiased. Third, and most important, I'm a constitutionalist (or quickly becoming one)being such I have watched many of mine and your constitutional rights being trampled on. This last issue should be key to any person be they Republican or Democrat. It amazes me how people can watch the federal government take away State Rights as well as individual's constitutional rights. I guess it's easy when it's someone elses rights but wait until it's your rights.
This is my last response on this topic because like I said it's hopeless to think that I can sway anybodies opinion on line.
Blessings,
dave
"It doesn't mean that much to me.. to mean that much to you." Neil Young
Blessings,
dave
"It doesn't mean that much to me.. to mean that much to you." Neil Young
dave
"It doesn't mean that much to me.. to mean that much to you." Neil Young