01-19-2009, 01:49 PM
ric, not arguing with you about the lunch any more.
I did not "detail" it; I gave only the teeniest bit of a long complex conversation, and the summary I did give didn't convey the right idea of the whole thing, so I deleted it.
I merely observed that the same sorts of criticisms were made about the Irish by the English. Really the same arguments. It is history. The Great Famine is now considered a managed passive genocide by the British to clear their lands of unwanted tenants. (During the famine, Ireland exported food to England while the Irish starved).
Why did the British people not rise up against what was being done? All those ideas about work ethic, etc. that I mentioned in my other post, made it desirable for the people to die.
People here complain about the notion of bailouts in time of crisis. Just what the Irish didn't get, was any relief from taxes, rent, or the duty to export food to pay their rent. A bailout would have saved what turned into a loss of a full quarter of the population.
Sometimes bailouts are not fair to those that don't need them - but they are humane.
I did not "detail" it; I gave only the teeniest bit of a long complex conversation, and the summary I did give didn't convey the right idea of the whole thing, so I deleted it.
I merely observed that the same sorts of criticisms were made about the Irish by the English. Really the same arguments. It is history. The Great Famine is now considered a managed passive genocide by the British to clear their lands of unwanted tenants. (During the famine, Ireland exported food to England while the Irish starved).
Why did the British people not rise up against what was being done? All those ideas about work ethic, etc. that I mentioned in my other post, made it desirable for the people to die.
People here complain about the notion of bailouts in time of crisis. Just what the Irish didn't get, was any relief from taxes, rent, or the duty to export food to pay their rent. A bailout would have saved what turned into a loss of a full quarter of the population.
Sometimes bailouts are not fair to those that don't need them - but they are humane.