06-25-2009, 02:53 PM
You, my friend, are purely drumming up trouble.
Yes, of course, I have all of that, and have access to the park library. Discussing all that here isn't appropriate, and I respect that.
I think it's interesting, in a lot of ways to look over the development of this message thread, as it's almost exactly a year old today, and--well. Views have changed. The primary premise was that we needed to build community AND we lacked the skills to do so. Does any of this explain or dis-explain a lot of stuff?
The only critic anyone needs care about is history.
Otherwise, since pimping is all the rage. . .
http://sensiblesimplicity.lefora.com/forum/
Let me state for the record I don't believe in factionalism. It's vastly more effective to join a movement than to try to start one. This was a primary fear of mine a year ago, and why I decided for so long to avoid starting another forum. I fear divide and conquer. Rightly so. It's a real threat in progressive circles for sure. Still, I believe that the groundswell of progressive change has moved beyond, perhaps far beyond, some of the topics relevant, or permitted, here on punaweb. Personally I would have rather that punaweb remained the calling card for the voice of puna. This would have been better for Puna, and more efficient, but that didn't prove to be the case. Things have fractured, and I've personally contributed to that, but I hope so constructively. Pointedly, I don't claim that my forum speaks for the "community." It speaks for a firmly established perspective on the community, not the community as a whole. This perspective has a great deal of tradition here in Hawaii, and elsewise makes a great deal of progressive sense. This is important, really. This will either be validated or disproved as we all move along.
Anyway, understanding, empathy and comprehension as we tumble into a new future.
Yes, of course, I have all of that, and have access to the park library. Discussing all that here isn't appropriate, and I respect that.
I think it's interesting, in a lot of ways to look over the development of this message thread, as it's almost exactly a year old today, and--well. Views have changed. The primary premise was that we needed to build community AND we lacked the skills to do so. Does any of this explain or dis-explain a lot of stuff?
The only critic anyone needs care about is history.
Otherwise, since pimping is all the rage. . .
http://sensiblesimplicity.lefora.com/forum/
Let me state for the record I don't believe in factionalism. It's vastly more effective to join a movement than to try to start one. This was a primary fear of mine a year ago, and why I decided for so long to avoid starting another forum. I fear divide and conquer. Rightly so. It's a real threat in progressive circles for sure. Still, I believe that the groundswell of progressive change has moved beyond, perhaps far beyond, some of the topics relevant, or permitted, here on punaweb. Personally I would have rather that punaweb remained the calling card for the voice of puna. This would have been better for Puna, and more efficient, but that didn't prove to be the case. Things have fractured, and I've personally contributed to that, but I hope so constructively. Pointedly, I don't claim that my forum speaks for the "community." It speaks for a firmly established perspective on the community, not the community as a whole. This perspective has a great deal of tradition here in Hawaii, and elsewise makes a great deal of progressive sense. This is important, really. This will either be validated or disproved as we all move along.
Anyway, understanding, empathy and comprehension as we tumble into a new future.