12-06-2009, 01:43 PM
To clarify things, robguz;
You can't get to the Lava Ocean entry without tresspassing on private property. Most of this land is owned by hawaiians whose ancestors have been there for generations. Access is allowed to area property owners and a few HVO scientists and film crews with permits from Civil defense.
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The County of Hawaii and the local families that own the land have reached a legal arrangement to make a portion of their land accessable to the public. Conditions of this arrangement are that no entrance fee will ever be charged, and that visitors stay within the designated area. The authority that officials excercise is from the area being declared a federal disaster area.
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If you own property, you probably share the same concerns about property rights and liability that the County and the landowners have. Why should they be denied the same consideration that I'm sure you expect with your own property?
So the expense, danger and trouble that responders (and taxpayers) go through is just a small part of the equation.
I notice that Hazen didn't bring up the small detail that tresspassers in the lava zone are subject to fines and arrest by DLNR and/or County officials......Also a "sublimely meaningful" experience.
edit: The area is closed tonight(Sun)due to unfavorable wind conditions.
Stoneface
You can't get to the Lava Ocean entry without tresspassing on private property. Most of this land is owned by hawaiians whose ancestors have been there for generations. Access is allowed to area property owners and a few HVO scientists and film crews with permits from Civil defense.
_____________________________________________________________________
The County of Hawaii and the local families that own the land have reached a legal arrangement to make a portion of their land accessable to the public. Conditions of this arrangement are that no entrance fee will ever be charged, and that visitors stay within the designated area. The authority that officials excercise is from the area being declared a federal disaster area.
______________________________________________________________________
If you own property, you probably share the same concerns about property rights and liability that the County and the landowners have. Why should they be denied the same consideration that I'm sure you expect with your own property?
So the expense, danger and trouble that responders (and taxpayers) go through is just a small part of the equation.
I notice that Hazen didn't bring up the small detail that tresspassers in the lava zone are subject to fines and arrest by DLNR and/or County officials......Also a "sublimely meaningful" experience.
edit: The area is closed tonight(Sun)due to unfavorable wind conditions.
Stoneface