01-01-2010, 03:01 PM
Bob,
Just use number 4 and the junction citations.
As per the cited restrictions, septic, wells etc… All those things will just be a matter of time before they are eventually adopted OB exercised restrictions within the code, just like the restriction to single family only dwellings.
I just wanted to point them out; I had no intention of debating them.
LOL... heck no Bob, I've never built a septic system in my life (unless you're counting a few holes when camping) but I've decommissioned several of them.
BTW... I would never endorse a takings for my own commercial interest, that would be up there with Treason IMO.
Also... we will not be installing a cesspool (I don't like them at all) nor will we be using a conventional septic system. We'll be installing a much more advanced sewage treatment system. I'd like to point out that Hawaii will probably be calling for these types of more advanced waste treatment systems in non-"dirt" bearing soils building sites in the near future.
I'll try again.
"What safety issues are you talking about that can not be addressed by an inspection?" It's not so much an inspection to satisfy a safety issue as it is an issue of public endangerment combined with public liability should such a system explode. If you consider all the other aspects of related construction exercised projects by the OB, they do not bring in the equation of public endangerment and therefore bare no burdens of liability to the public. This is an odd situation because Hawaii allows cesspools whereas most do not. When you consider a septic system, the system is built to a standard in which the biological threats are minimized to the ground water supply. So if we were in a state that only allowed septic systems and prohibited cesspools, the argument could be raised that a public endangerment exists with regard to biological and chemical contaminates entering the ground water supply. In this case we are right back to public endangerment and public liability.
So cesspools are a mute point with regard to public liability as long as the state permits them, thus... who gives a rats rip who puts them, they are going to contaminate nearly every well down grade of their location regardless of a passed inspection or not.
E ho'a'o no i pau kuhihewa.
Just use number 4 and the junction citations.
As per the cited restrictions, septic, wells etc… All those things will just be a matter of time before they are eventually adopted OB exercised restrictions within the code, just like the restriction to single family only dwellings.
I just wanted to point them out; I had no intention of debating them.
LOL... heck no Bob, I've never built a septic system in my life (unless you're counting a few holes when camping) but I've decommissioned several of them.
BTW... I would never endorse a takings for my own commercial interest, that would be up there with Treason IMO.
Also... we will not be installing a cesspool (I don't like them at all) nor will we be using a conventional septic system. We'll be installing a much more advanced sewage treatment system. I'd like to point out that Hawaii will probably be calling for these types of more advanced waste treatment systems in non-"dirt" bearing soils building sites in the near future.
I'll try again.
"What safety issues are you talking about that can not be addressed by an inspection?" It's not so much an inspection to satisfy a safety issue as it is an issue of public endangerment combined with public liability should such a system explode. If you consider all the other aspects of related construction exercised projects by the OB, they do not bring in the equation of public endangerment and therefore bare no burdens of liability to the public. This is an odd situation because Hawaii allows cesspools whereas most do not. When you consider a septic system, the system is built to a standard in which the biological threats are minimized to the ground water supply. So if we were in a state that only allowed septic systems and prohibited cesspools, the argument could be raised that a public endangerment exists with regard to biological and chemical contaminates entering the ground water supply. In this case we are right back to public endangerment and public liability.
So cesspools are a mute point with regard to public liability as long as the state permits them, thus... who gives a rats rip who puts them, they are going to contaminate nearly every well down grade of their location regardless of a passed inspection or not.
E ho'a'o no i pau kuhihewa.