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Predictions for 2010
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Nice spin Paul. That's just stupid. Fact remains, your call was a much weaker call. Not only that, it's a nice idea to make a prediction for a year with a year ahead of you, not after a quarter of it is past, including elections and a demonstrated willingness to bail out failed companies, especially considering the case of Citigroup and GM. Even with the added benefit of having those issues known and behind behind you, your call was still weaker. That knowledge would have been a pretty big help to you, I'd think, nonetheless, you still came up with a weaker call. By every measure except your special cherry picked one--which no one cares about but you--my call was a better call than yours, and it was the best and most useful call any of us made, including you. I hope it made some people some money, as it did me, and I hope it was ahead of the game enough and useful to people that it might have encouraged them from selling out in a panic back in Dec of 08'--for it sure looked bleak. At the end of the day it was nothing short of very good advise. A lot of people appreciated the dialog at time, and many still do and the dialog continues elsewhere, which is obvious to everyone and must bug the hell out of you. In fact appears this advice may have even been helpful to you making your call.

Even if your call was a real call at all.

In fact, as far as I see it you've not even made yet one prediction--as predictions require the courage to be ahead of the game and offer rational basis for why others might expect your prediction might be valid and not just mere fantasy. What you offered up wasn't even a prediction--As I see it you wished. You merely wished. Your wish was fulfilled. You offered no analysis as to why, of course, that would require courage and subject one's thoughts to scrutiny, which is some thing that some people enjoy evading. It's convenient for sure. You might even have to look at some of the fundamental issues that face our society squarely. That might scare you. You might develop a sudden interest in growing sweet potatoes if you did look at things squarely. That would probably be irritating to you.

Thank you Rob, for the opportunity to defend the record. I know this sort of thing tests everyone's patience. I'm done. I promise. Old Paul can have the last word. I'm certain no one cares. I certainly don't. My only axe I have to grind is that we're going to have to work together with much more honesty and integrity--emphasis on work--if we're going to make any progress in dealing with the issues headed our way. Right or wrong, agree or no, I hope that attitude comes through clear. Idiotic rivalries like this one get in the way of that and poison our society. My goal with this whole Paul deal isn't so much to defend myself or set the record straight rather than to expose a core cause of divisiveness. Maybe that's constructive. Maybe not.

Here's a prediction and an attempt to be both local and constructive: The State of Hawaii will experience even greater budgetary constraints than last year. This will be the case for these primary reasons. 1)There's been no recovery in the broad sector of the economy that can provide the needed revenue to support the existing services, 2) the real cost of providing those services will
increase, and 3) A lot of people are caught up ideological fetishes and wishing--and not a few of these are in government, where they craft policy and budgets in a complete atmosphere of fantasy and cherry picked data. Rather than stupid discussions like this one we need to start thinking as a community about how we're going to fill in the gaps.

In fact I'll just restate the same thing I said here: A year and a half ago. The trend continues.

http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6057&whichpage=4



http://sensiblesimplicity.lefora.com/
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Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-02-2010, 08:09 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by missydog1 - 01-02-2010, 10:21 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-02-2010, 12:32 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by John S. Rabi - 01-02-2010, 12:43 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-02-2010, 12:50 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by mdd7000 - 01-02-2010, 12:53 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-02-2010, 12:55 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-02-2010, 01:13 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by missydog1 - 01-02-2010, 01:17 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-02-2010, 01:28 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by mdd7000 - 01-02-2010, 02:47 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-02-2010, 03:14 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by David M - 01-02-2010, 03:57 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Kapohocat - 01-02-2010, 06:20 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by John S. Rabi - 01-03-2010, 04:08 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by holahan - 01-03-2010, 09:26 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by whalesong - 01-03-2010, 09:56 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by missydog1 - 01-03-2010, 11:29 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Dave M - 01-03-2010, 12:23 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-04-2010, 04:08 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-04-2010, 04:18 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Dave M - 01-04-2010, 06:04 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-04-2010, 06:36 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-04-2010, 06:48 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by pslamont - 01-04-2010, 06:51 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-04-2010, 07:11 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Greg - 01-04-2010, 07:43 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by kabloink - 01-04-2010, 07:50 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Rob Tucker - 01-04-2010, 08:09 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Dave M - 01-04-2010, 09:36 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-04-2010, 02:20 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Del Pranke - 01-04-2010, 04:28 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by David M - 01-04-2010, 05:52 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-05-2010, 03:43 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-05-2010, 04:09 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by EightFingers - 01-05-2010, 04:14 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-05-2010, 04:19 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by LeeE - 01-05-2010, 04:30 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Dave M - 01-05-2010, 05:30 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-05-2010, 05:53 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-05-2010, 09:07 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Samdooby - 01-05-2010, 09:10 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by csgray - 01-05-2010, 09:17 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-05-2010, 09:29 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-05-2010, 10:23 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Rob Tucker - 01-05-2010, 11:01 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by John S. Rabi - 01-05-2010, 11:27 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-05-2010, 11:39 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-05-2010, 12:21 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-05-2010, 12:41 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-05-2010, 12:44 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-05-2010, 01:02 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-05-2010, 01:07 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Rob Tucker - 01-05-2010, 01:15 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Wao nahele kane - 01-05-2010, 01:16 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-05-2010, 02:40 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-05-2010, 03:07 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-05-2010, 03:19 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Rob Tucker - 01-05-2010, 03:29 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Dave M - 01-05-2010, 03:53 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-05-2010, 05:43 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-06-2010, 01:44 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Greg - 01-06-2010, 03:03 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-06-2010, 03:44 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-06-2010, 04:52 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Kelena - 01-06-2010, 05:15 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-06-2010, 06:04 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-06-2010, 06:10 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-06-2010, 06:42 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-06-2010, 07:41 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Rob Tucker - 01-06-2010, 07:51 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-06-2010, 09:21 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-06-2010, 09:33 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Wao nahele kane - 01-06-2010, 10:19 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-06-2010, 10:26 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-06-2010, 10:33 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-06-2010, 11:02 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Wao nahele kane - 01-06-2010, 11:20 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-06-2010, 01:38 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-06-2010, 02:38 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-06-2010, 02:48 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Wao nahele kane - 01-06-2010, 06:57 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-06-2010, 07:19 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-06-2010, 07:53 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Wao nahele kane - 01-06-2010, 08:56 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Wao nahele kane - 01-06-2010, 09:17 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-07-2010, 03:15 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-07-2010, 04:05 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-07-2010, 05:28 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-07-2010, 05:36 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-07-2010, 05:44 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-07-2010, 06:14 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-07-2010, 06:33 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by John S. Rabi - 01-07-2010, 06:36 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Rob Tucker - 01-07-2010, 06:40 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by John S. Rabi - 01-07-2010, 07:22 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-07-2010, 07:49 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by mgeary - 01-07-2010, 08:17 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-07-2010, 08:43 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by JWFITZ - 01-07-2010, 08:48 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by Rob Tucker - 01-07-2010, 09:46 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by chrisb483 - 01-07-2010, 10:59 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-08-2010, 07:02 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by whalesong - 01-08-2010, 12:21 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by David M - 01-08-2010, 02:23 PM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by 808blogger - 01-10-2010, 03:57 AM
RE: Predictions for 2010 - by PaulW - 01-06-2011, 11:46 AM

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