HPR (NPR , HAWAII) "Beyond the emotion" GMO"S

[Rob Tucker]

Once the back biting starts there is almost no end to it.

Leave it off guys or someone will take a vacation.

Assume the best and ask questions.

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[Kelena]

Those who are anti-GMO have had ample opportunity to advance their views. In fact, they got a law passed, with very little support from the agricultural community. Hearing a different point of view should be very welcome and then the marketplace of ideas can decide.

[Opihikaobob]

Kelena, any one who has followed the gmo issue on punaweb, pro or con has a more accurate view of the issue than the dribble aired on hpr, at one point the VP of monsanto said,"everyone eats gmo's" , to that I would say that in my case it was by accident.
Why don't you go to the link posted by paul.w - then come back and see if you learned anything you haven't read here on punaweb? And then you can attempt to enlighten the rest of us with this info.

[Kelena]

If I were attempt to enlighten someone, I would first ascertain that they are in the dark. And then I would determine whether there is a fair probability of enlightenment. In this case, I conclude that the subject is very much in the dark, but that, nonetheless, the probability of enlightenment is low. I'll save my energy for gardening, but thank you for the suggestion.

I have to go tend to my contrails now. Then I take a secret flight on a very large military airplane that will circle over lower Puna with its aft end open, sowing paranoia.

[Wao nahele kane]

This is a fascinating subject.

Do you suppose if one were to shoot at a herd cows with a fully auto 22 cal vitamin gun they could successfully get the correct dosage into all the cows? How many would get an over dose, die, get an eye or two shot out and how many would live the through the proposed vitamin dosing carnage? Seriously... we all know such a vitamin delivery method would be silly.

Introducing - the GENE GUN!
http://www.lifescientz.com/Hand-held-Gene-Gun.htm

It's absolutely fascinating that this is considered by many to be a precise process (it must be that "Star Trek" look that convinces so many). Gut chuckles over here, lol.

I think its time to make a career change and begin making GE foods, a small start up cost, some fooling around in the lab and the greenhouse, no FDA screening necessary just sign a consent for responsibility form and a couple other very minor reports and off to the market with my new products I will go... yum yum. Bet you all are ready to test out my tasty creations eh. No worry, you'll never know my stuff is in your food. Should anything go wrong in another 30 years, I won't give a damn cause I'll be richer than the State and keep em tied up in court while I make more tasty tid bits for you to eat.

[TomK]

Kelena, do you write for a living? Because if you don't, you should!

[Midnight Rambler]

quote:

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Originally posted by PaulW

Mercola, on the other hand, continues to crusade against vaccines!

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Not just anti-vaccine - he's also a supporter of homeopathy, cancer quack Stanislaw Burzynski, cancer as a fungus, etc. Pretty much any kind of quackery.

[Wao nahele kane]

How about one of you GE food experts explain to us how a gene gun works and describe its role in the GE modification of plants.
Also fill us in on the history of the first gene gun ever made, the year made and what was used to make it.
Here's a link to get you rolling on the task - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_gun

[Opihikaobob]

Huge: New Lawsuit Filed Against USDA over Missing Docs Show, that the USDA withheld documents from the public that revealed that

“USDA determined Monsanto’s Roundup Ready alfalfa posed significant environmental and economics harms and initially proposed placing restrictions on it. Yet the agency went ahead and granted full unrestricted approval one month later. Did the White House intervene? Did Monsanto pressure the agency? The fact is we don’t know, and unless the court orders USDA to hand over these documents we may never know,”


1
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
CENTER FOR FOOD SAFETY, )
660 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE, #302 )
Washington, DC 20003 )
)
Plaintiff,
)
Case No.:
1:14-cv-398
)
v. )
)
COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY
)
AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF
ANIMAL AND PLANT HEALTH )
INSPECTION SERVICE, )
1400 Independence Avenue, SW )
Washington, DC 20250 )
)
Defendant.
)
)
COMPLAINT
Plaintiff Center for Food Safety alleges as follows:
I.
NATURE OF ACTION
1.
Plaintiff Center for Food Safety (CFS)
brings this action und
er the Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. § 552. Th
rough a FOIA request, CFS has sought records
from Defendant Animal and Plant Health Inspec
tion Service (APHIS), a division of the United
States Department of Agricultu
re. Defendant APHIS has violated FOIA by: (1) failing to
disclose the requested documents, instead unlaw
fully withholding the requested information;
and (2) failing to adequately res
pond to Plaintiff’s appeal within
the statutorily prescribed time
limit. CFS now asks the Court to order Defenda
nt to respond to Plaintiff’s appeal, and to
produce all responsive agency records that Defenda
nt improperly withheld from the Plaintiff.
2.
This case concerns Defendant APHIS’s dut
y to disclose information related to
Case 1:14-cv-00398 Document 1 Filed 03/12/14 Page 1 of 14
2
the agency’s decision to approve
the unrestricted cultivation and sa
le of genetica
lly engineered
alfalfa (Roundup Ready alfalfa), alfa
lfa engineered to withstand th
e repeated applications of
the herbicide glyphosate. APHIS’s process of
approving Roundup Ready alfalfa has been an
issue of national interest, and a
subject of litigation involving Pl
aintiff CFS, alfalfa farmers,
consumer groups, and other national public interest
groups dedicated to sustainable agriculture
and the protection of our environment.
II.
JURISDICTION AND VENUE
3.
This Court has jurisdiction over this
action pursuant to FOIA, 5 U.S.C.
§ 552(a)(4)(B). This Court also has juri
sdiction over this action under 28 U.S.C. §
1331
(federal question).
4.
This Court has the authority to grant declaratory relief pursuant to the
Declaratory Judgment Act, 28 U.S.C. § 2201
et seq.
5.
Venue is proper in this ju
dicial district pursuant to
28 U.S.C. § 1391(e) because
no real property is involved in
this action and Plaintiff is in
corporated and has its principal
place of business in this district. Venue
is also proper under 5 U.S.C. § 552(a)(4)(B).
6.
This Court has the authority
to award costs and attorn
eys’ fees under 28 U.S.C.
§ 2414 and 5 U.S.C. § 552(a)(4)(E).
III.
PARTIES
7.

More on the pdf. docs at this link:http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/files/2014-3-12-dkt-1--pls--complaint-rra-foia_19503.pdf

[Rob Tucker]

If this was filed in a Hawaiian court I could see the relevance. Otherwise not one word in your post mentions Hawaii and I take this to be stepping into a national debate.

The post will be removed soon unless someone can make a compelling case for keeping the post. Do it quick.

Assume the best and ask questions.

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