02-08-2025, 09:03 AM (This post was last modified: 02-08-2025, 09:08 AM by TomK.)
(02-08-2025, 03:13 AM)Patricia Wrote: Please do not read or respond if you are not interested. Thank you, in advance.
I won't bother with the rest of the stuff in this thread. I'll go straight to the point. "Be Carefull What You Wish For" is a subtle threat aimed at someone and perhaps many. I don't know who, but I suspect anyone who disagrees with you. By the way, the word is "careful". That is not a good way to start a thread and get people on your side. Then you say, "update on the HPPOA lawsuit".
Well, no. There was no update provided. You then obfuscated and told others to do their research because you wouldn't provide all the info. Then you write " do not read or respond if you are not interested."
Can you not understand that 1) this will trigger people to respond, and 2) you are asking people not to criticize your posts as if you have the power to do that? This is not your forum. People, within reason, are allowed to post responses to your posts, ask questions, post different opinions, and, if it's not too mean, make fun of you. But when you just keep posting the same things repeatedly, people get fed up. It's why your last thread was locked, and I have a feeling this one will ultimately suffer the same fate.
(02-08-2025, 08:49 AM)Patricia Wrote: All the video clips and lawyer "break-down" aside, bottom line is that the Watamulls seem to feel, as has been stated prior and numerous times, that HPPOA (formerly PHH) wanted the deed restrictions, negotiated the deed restrictions, and petitioned the court to approve the deed restrictions. There was no deceit or coercion involved.
Paddleman is Patricia's source and he fed her the document this afternoon.
She posted it here and I read it about 2 hours later.
I immediately went to ECourt to get the straight story and several more documents had been posted that presented HPPOA's side of the story.
I'm not going to post them here because it's about 14 pages.
To be clear, what I posted is the a document, which clearly states that the Watumulls are not just going to roll over and agree with HPPOA violating deed restrictions. In addition, the Watumuls do not seem to appreciate bring called "deceitful" or being accused of "deceptive" practices.
The other documents, "HPPOA's side of the story," are available, as TomK says. I was previously unaware of them. But again, to be clear, HPPOA's "reasons" for violating deed restrictions and then blaming the person who quitclaimed the land to them for their actions is just MORE of what HPPOA has already thrown at the Watumulls and anyone else who has challenged them.
I will post the HPPOA documents to my website later today, if anyone wants to slog through them. HPPOA's lawyer is slower getting to the point than the Watumull's lawyers.
02-08-2025, 05:25 PM (This post was last modified: 02-08-2025, 05:27 PM by HiloJulie.)
"I will post the HPPOA documents to my website later today, if anyone wants to slog through them. HPPOA's lawyer is slower getting to the point than the Watumull's lawyers."
Don't bother Patricia.
Clearly, it's too much of an ask for you to present ALL sides of the issue. I do believe a root canal without anesthesia would be less painful and more enjoyable than asking you to be objective and presenting ALL sides of the story and not just one that contains words you think are favorable to your cause.
So, in order to keep this thread from growing 25 plus pages filled with "Prove your statement, sir" along with "I am all for posting additional statements" so on and so forth, I went and bit the bullet and got them.
So, without further delay, have fun "slogging" through HPPOA's 9-page Statement and then the 7-page Joint Statement.
(02-08-2025, 01:51 PM)Obie Wrote: To clear things up a bit.
Paddleman is Patricia's source and he fed her the document this afternoon.
She posted it here and I read it about 2 hours later.
I immediately went to ECourt to get the straight story and several more documents had been posted that presented HPPOA's side of the story.
I'm not going to post them here because it's about 14 pages.
It's all preliminary lawyer stuff.
Interesting opinion. Do you have the proof to back up your accusation/claim about ME or just guessing again as usual? Great you read it about 2 hours after she posted it and went on eCourt*Kokua site to get the real story and to educate yourself. Basically the same information has already filed by HPPOA in their original filing to drag the Watumull's into the lawsuit. Yes you are correct about the additional postings and by the way there is a third one that was posted yesterday evening after you went on the Court website just an fyi. Wait a minute didn't you say in your earlier post #6 in this thread that "quote" "I don't have a computer that allows me to copy and post PDF files". So which is it you can post them and choose NOT to because they are about 14 pages or you Can't because of your computer'? And yes it is all preliminary lawyer stuff as usual in filings/documents to the Court, most people already know that.
02-08-2025, 05:39 PM (This post was last modified: 02-08-2025, 05:41 PM by HiloJulie.)
I see the plaintiff's Statement has been filed as well, but for some reason, after I download it from the eCourt site, it opens on my end as a blank document. Somehow, I think Elon is to blame!
I will strive to get it for all of you interested in ALL sides of the story, not just select words and a "snippet" here and a "snippet" there!
Look... Some, it seems to me, are twisting and getting nasty about this thread probably just because I am the person who put it up.
There is NO piece-mealing info here. No snippets. And I do not want to argue with a handful of people who really arent interesred in this thread as much as they are in shutting it down and shutting me up.
This thread is titled, Be careful what you wish for. The thread was given that title because, as the history I have read and the docs I have read, and the transcripts I have read have said, PHH (now HPPOA) wanted the deed restrictions placed on the lands that were quitclaimed to them from Watumull. Watumull did not twist their arm. He did not deceive them. And he did not coerce them. PHH (now HPPOA) were given EXACTLY what they want.
HPPOA blaming others for breaking restrictions their predecessors fought for and INTENTIONALLY made sure were documented and court approved, is an interesting move. PHH (now HPPOA) got exactly what they wished for (land with deed restrictions that THEY wanted) and now, because they want something else, they are going to try to rewrite history, stamp their feet, and blame everyone else to try to get their way.
This thread is about the deed restrictions and what the WATUMULLS feel about them (no deceit, no coercion). If others would like to read ALL the other newly filed docs, I will post them later on my website. They are long. If others want to post them here, more power to you.
BUT this ridiculous back and forth and flinging accusations and videos, and whatever else, is totally unnecessary. As I said, in the beginning- just DON'T respond. Read, don't read, and scroll on. You have that choice. Allow others the choice to do the same. It's that simple.
