This Has Gone On Long Enough - The Beginning Of The End Of Covid In Hawaii

[malahini]

Big surprise.

[kalakoa]

Confused: how did Omicron get past Safe Travels?!?!?!!

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

how did Omicron get past Safe Travels?!?!?!!

Probably like fire ants & coquis got past the Ag Declaration.
The many back door routes into Hawaii:
Military flights
Ships
Private planes
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[malahini]

Lol. Anime convention guy was vaccinated and boosted. So you really think safe travels is helping?

[kalakoa]

Safe Travels is totally helping ... someone!

[Wao nahele kane]

Pretty darn sure there was a linked article

Yes.
There was.
A one man’s opinion piece, which he‘s certainly entitled to.
However “conspiracy theory” is still listed and defined in all the dictionaries, even has its own Wikipedia page.  I don’t believe it’s described as archaic.

Beautiful sunny day here in Puna.  Glancing at the horizon with the ocean appearing higher than I am, either there’s a giant never arriving tsunami out there, I’m on the downhill tilt of a flat earth but what’s holding the water back? or, I’m gonna go with the earth is round.

Keeping up with your extraneous deflections aren't worth the effort, though I did get a good belly-roll from the following. 

"...Glancing at the horizon with the ocean appearing higher than I am,..." 

Yeah, that's it, go with you not appearing as high as the ocean. Maybe if you weren't high at all, your imagination would stop playing tricks on you?
I've never looked out above and across the ocean and observed an ocean horizon as appearing above me.
Of course if you used something as simple as a calibrated builders level, you'd see your imagination got the better of you when the leveled levels horizontal sight line apeared above the ocean. 
There's actually a formula one can use by measuring the offset of the angle drop to the oceans horizon from level to determine the levels approximate elevation and the approximate distance to the observable horizon. 

If you're looking for Earth spheroid proofs via simple observation, there's legitimate ones, such as observing the curved shadows cast from the Earth upon the moon, that's where folks long ago who possessed some faculties of objective reasoning skills, began. But you're welcome to lean on your imaginary observation assessments if you like. Whatever disjointed sophistry fills your sails seems to be fine by you and that's a-okay too, enjoy. 

https://youtu.be/qGyPuey-1Jw

[kalianna]

HOTPE, you have been using that 35% figure for a long time and it is no longer accurate. The lowest rate in Puna is 35-35% in Mountain View, Keaau is at 60-70%, other areas are at the 45%-60% rate.

https://health.hawaii.gov/coronavirusdis...in-hawaii/

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Yeah, that's it, go with you not appearing as high as the ocean.

Since you’re unaware of this simple common perception, even living on an island surrounded by water, you may wish to acquaint yourself with the concept before you start in on another one of your of your polysyllabic manifestos:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon

Why Sea Level sometimes gives an illusion being at height
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/wh...ht.895107/

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Thanks kalianna, I changed my previous post to - - some areas of Puna at 35%....

[TomK]

Keeping up with your extraneous deflections aren't worth the effort, though I did get a good belly-roll from the following. 

"...Glancing at the horizon with the ocean appearing higher than I am,..." 

Yeah, that's it, go with you not appearing as high as the ocean. Maybe if you weren't high at all, your imagination would stop playing tricks on you?
I've never looked out above and across the ocean and observed an ocean horizon as appearing above me.
Of course if you used something as simple as a calibrated builders level, you'd see your imagination got the better of you when the leveled levels horizontal sight line apeared above the ocean. 
There's actually a formula one can use by measuring the offset of the angle drop to the oceans horizon from level to determine the levels approximate elevation and the approximate distance to the observable horizon. 

HOTPE was describing a well-known phenomenon. You see it while driving south on H-130. Most drivers and hikers don't have a calibrated builder's level and can't see "the leveled levels horizontal sight line" and even if they did, aren't going to be using it when they glance at the ocean. Nor will they be calculating the results of a formula or the distance to the horizon. That would certainly be a distraction while driving.

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Point being, share your knowledge, Tom. Be helpful and patient. Don't make an ass of yourself. See some crazy? Walk on by and ignore it or lend a hand, but it's senseless to slap them upside the head and a waste of your mind. You of all people should know better, that's my point. 

I tried that with the muography thread. You intervened and immediately started up with insults. No matter what, you insult people and ruin threads. Perhaps you should heed your own advice.

[Wao nahele kane]

Yeah, that's it, go with you not appearing as high as the ocean.

Since you’re unaware of this simple common perception, even living on an island surrounded by water, you may wish to acquaint yourself with the concept before you start in on another one of your of your polysyllabic manifestos:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon

Why Sea Level sometimes gives an illusion being at height
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/wh...ht.895107/

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Thanks kalianna, I changed my previous post to - - some areas of Puna at 35%....

One area (mountain view) of Puna is at 35.1% - 45%. Not some areas (plural), Just one area, mountain view and not 35%, it's 35.1% - 45%. Some areas of Puna, is missleading as is the 35%, an outright missrepresentation. 

Back to your silly reply to me. Note in each case it's an illusion and not necessarily experienced by everyone. Therefore, more accurately, it's an imaginary type illusion, because it isn't shared by everyone. 
An actual illusion would be something everyone observes that appears to be something that it's not. Such as a hot highway or distant surface that is bending light waves, causing an illusion of water that isn't actually there, a mirage is an illusion. An illusion only experienced by some, is an artifact of either the minds inability to properly process sensory input or a senses inability to send proper input to the brain and therefore resulting in an imaginary type illusion or semi hallucination. 
In any case, it's not something that can be used as evidence with respect to a spheroid based Earth position. 

I'm well aware that the Earth is an oblate spheroid and I also know of several methods to prove it with detailed measurements taken from my total station. 
There's a simple method to prove the Earth's curvature using a simple builders level and by taking two simple measures, one from a low elevation and one from a higher elevation, both of the ocean horizon. Due to the fact that there is no dispute that the Earth is thousands of miles across by either camp, there should be no major angle drop between level sighting to the oceans horizon from low or high elevation readings if the Earth were flat, unfortunately for flat earthers, there is a signifigant angle drop from level at higher elevations to that of low level elevation readings, therefore proving the Earth is composed of a curved surface.

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We can also use those simple measurements and extrapolate a rough guestimate of the Earth's diameter.