HPP Biz

[Katarina]

Well you have been here longer than I Kenny. You have seen it all.....well almost.So with all your experiences you must feel that so much time and $ has been wasted here in HPP on crap instead of making this place great. All the internal fighting... non stop. I am sure that you see this level of corruption pretty frightening though.And feel there is really only 1 solution. Volunteers just can't do it.

[DTisme]

I like Leslie Blyth and my rep,(district 9 - sorry, can't remember his name and can't find the list of board members on the hppoa site!!) but I have no idea who the other reps are and what "their agenda" is that is so reviled. Can someone please explain? Is the agenda merely NOT to be transparent and to let the GM do what he wants and bypass the board, or is there something more nefarious going on? Thanks for the emails, mermaid, but where online can I find a list online of board members and their districts? Doesn't seem to be on hppoa.net. I see there, btw, that the "current" issue of The Conch newsletter is Feb. 2016. Sigh. Can someone break down who is who and what their "agenda" is for me? I assume the reluctance to do this is bc of fear of being sued, but maybe someone can be diplomatic in descriptions.

Also, the whole thing about your voice cannot be heard unless you come to meetings, is bull. If I can write to my rep, my voice should be heard.

[Katarina]

Well.... DTisme, that would all depend on who your rep is. Sadly only a couple want to and are trying to follow the bylaws. The rest don't care. They don't know them, don't want to ;learn them and won't follow them even when they are breaking state statutes. You can talk til you are blue in the face to those and it won't matter. They have their own agenda which is to give total reign to the GM and/or they have been conned into believing the lies. Someone on Face Book said it well. To a con person lying comes as naturally to them as breathing does for us normal people. They always have a lie on the tip of their tongues that comes out smooth and convincing. A normal person can not think fast enough to think their con through and respond accordingly plus most people hate that kind of confrontation and would rather just back off and quit or join the dark side. We have 2 board members as I understand it who are trying.Obviously not the majority so you get the picture.

[mermaid53]

DTisme, here's the link to the board directors names and districts from the Hawaiian Paradise Park website:

http://www.hppoa.net/executive-informati...directors/

I will post more later. Meanwhile pls read my recent post on the HPP Road Maint thread.

[mermaid53]

DTisme, I'll try to answer your questions, sorry for the length but there's no way around it, and it is my OPINION based on my observations at board and membership meetings over the past sev yrs, my volunteerism on committees for sev yrs, RTSC, BLC, FC and NC, AND my own personal experiences w/renegade board reps. "Renegade: An individual who rejects lawful or conventional behavior." A board who rejects the bylaws and policies, circumvents them by writing their own policies, and conducts whacko unethical maneuvers to meet their own agenda = renegade reps, IMO. I've seen reps and their supporters roll their eyeballs at the mention of following the bylaws.

Our bylaws: "Article IV Objects and Purposes (a) To ascertain the needs and desires of lot owners of the Hawaiian Paradise Park subdivision and represent those needs and desires as appropriate. (e) To foster an atmosphere of cooperation and harmony that encourages the participation of lot owners in the management and operation of the Association."

CCrelly 2016: "What the membership wants doesn't matter, the board can do whatever they want." (witnessed at sev mtgs)

1) I believe the maneuver to hold an illegal mtg on 29 Jan 2018 (tomorrow), called by this renegade board is revealing their lack of ethical code of conduct and should NOT be board reps or have the right to be. Shame on them for what they do.

a) There's NO such thing as a "special exec session board mtg" = ILLEGAL.
b) Special mtgs are supposed to be reserved for urgent matters (per a policy passed by a former board that still stands) i.e. Their agenda to depose board ofcrs is NOT urgent = ILLEGAL, and can be taken care of during a regularly scheduled board mtg
c) Renegade board reps colluded in calling this illegal mtg and "informed" the pres and 2 officers of the mtg.
d) The illegal mtg agenda: "The meeting is being held at the request of two or more Board Members and is to cover personnel matters." Personnel has nothing to do w/volunteer reps but everything to do w/employees. Are they finally going to vote to remove the GM for his insubordination and liabilities to the association? That would be of urgent nature if he's a liability every day he's on the job. Or are they going to vote to remove LCrelly from the ofc for conflict of interest? I think not = ILLEGAL mtg.
e) IMO, they are colluding to stop the FC from operating in the manner described in the bylaws which is evident in the timing of their illegal mtg, one day before the FC mtg. What could be of such immediacy that it was necessary to call a "special" mtg? The new treasurer voted in by a majority vote of reps at the last board mtg has requested financial info from the GM for the FC mtg....connect the dots.

2) Connect the dots.....IMO, their maneuver is also to seize power from the current pres and new treasurer (both have shown over and over to be bylaw followers representing the membership's best interest), which then will shut down transparency, give power back to the usual reckless renegade reps, and protect the GM = multiple red flags. These reps are used to running HPP like a dictatorship as they did for 3 yrs, so I wouldn't be surprised if this occurs again. This is all possible w/the recent appointment of Crelly which gives them a solid majority five. Many were relieved when his term ended in 2016 but here he is AGAIN, much to HPP's misfortune. We just got rid of a treasurer who was treasurer for a yr, had NO financial or professional experience, wouldn't give the FC the documents they needed, and was just replaced by someone w/excellent credentials.... Less than 1 wk after Crelly's appointment, they are maneuvering to appt 2 less qualified reps for the pres and treasurer seats (hence the illegal mtg 29 Jan 2018) = NOT in the association's best interest.

3) The GM has said like a mantra that "the board gave me the authority to.....". He recently provided the pres w/the document giving authority to hire/fire signed by CCrelly in early 2016. This document was illegal before the ink dried when signed by CCrelly, and the GM used this false authority to hire Crelly's wife in the office = conflict of interest. The hiring occurred 2 wks before CCrelly got on the board again, and in the midst of a membership demand for a forensic analysis and GM termination.

4) The GM's been obstructing the pres from getting other documents and info she's requested and is entitled to as pres = Insubordination. One of them giving authority to sign contracts, that is reserved for officers on‌ly = another violation by CCrelly and his boards. The GM's now obstructing Dist 7 rep, the new treasurer, from getting financial info she requested and is entitled to, who in turn would share the info w/the FC, who are also entitled to this info.

5) There has been positive progress towards transparency by the current pres Dist 5, and Dist 7 and 9 reps, which then revealed past board and GM violations w/HPP financial business = IMO, mismanagement. This resulted in contracts w/2 vendors we've been doing business w/for over 2 yrs, just now being reviewed by the FC and upon the FC's advice, then shut down due to lack of proper permits, licenses etc. Some reps were very unhappy and tried to obstruct and sway the board vote (Dist's 1, 2, and 6).

6) The non transparency first started w/the wrongful employee termination lawsuit in Aug/Sep 2014, AND then escalated around the time the CS project began in 2015. IMO, the justification for non transparency under the guise of the lawsuit was abuse of power, bc the CS had nothing to do w/the lawsuit. They in fact knew they didn't have the membership's backing bc they derailed the membership to ensure they didn't have a voice on CS'g our roads = Dictatorship. The FC was bypassed by the board w/intent to be non transparent on all aspects of the CS job and the board rarely discussed CS biz at board mtgs. Now that there's recently been some transparency, it's revealing mismanagement. So this could be another reason to seize power away from those that brought some transparency to CS. Will they try and start CS again while the FC subcommittee's looking into alternatives that are a better fit for HPP?

7) Dist 2 rep is still pushing to do mailboxes despite the membership voting it down. She claims that it's those w/mailboxes that voted it down. That is totally false. A fair # of lot owners sd they don't trust the board w/their money after all the neglect of the roads and easements. Is this another agenda item once the power flips to their side? She said publicly that the membership's vote doesn't matter.

[Obie]

"it is my OPINION based on my observations at board and membership meetings over the past sev yrs,"

You also insist that I am a woman who works in the HPP office by those same skills of observation.

[leo]

On cue! Don't feed the troll!

[mermaid53]

Lori Laucik, President:

"After consulting with my attorney regarding the special meeting he made me aware of issues with how the meeting was scheduled. Originally we were emailed it was Executive Session for board appointments, later after the question of whether board appointments are executive session it was changed to personnel issues. After researching who personnel are it was changed to complaints on some board members. Directors should be given a list of the complaints so that there is time to research and defend themselves, this is due process and covered in Roberts Rules.

Patrick (Murdoch) emailed today we need to meet to vote for Ruth (Mizuba) to meet with the Post Master from Honolulu, this is not true the mailbox committee is a membership committee and a lot owner issue not a board issue so the board should not be having votes regarding mailboxes. Besides this issue was never brought up until today.

A special meeting should be called when business needs to happen before the next regularly scheduled board meeting. The fact that the agenda has changed more than once shows there was not a need to have a special meeting and the fact that the board has not been given a list of complaints shows there was no need for a special meeting.

For these reasons and after consulting my attorney I will not attend the meeting scheduled January 29 6pm. If a meeting is rescheduled, meeting the criteria set in the bylaws and Roberts Rules of Order I will attend if I am available.

Any decisions voted on that are in conflict of the bylaws or Roberts Rules during an improper meeting will be null and void according to Roberts Rules pg 343.

Lori Laucik"

(Edited to add Ms Laucik's board position)

[mermaid53]

Leslie Blyth, Treasurer:

"I shall be more precise. RRO page 655 and 656 states clearly the process required when bringing complaints for discipline or removal of an officer. We have civil rights and due process and the way the agenda has changed, and it is too vague. My attendance would present myself as approving this improper process according to my attorney, D. Halsted, I should not attend.

As far as removing me as Human Resource Chair there is no need for any special meeting, they have the votes and they do not need to state cause. A final reason that can not support this illegal meeting is Mr. Creely should have been disqualified as a board candidate as the HPP Corporate Policy-General Policy and Bylaws on conflict of interest... it states 8. Relationships that suggest a conflict of interest shall be avoided. No board member shall be employed by the Association for any reason. NO FAMILY MEMBER OF A DIRECTOR SHALL BE EMPLOYED FOR ANY REASON. Because Mr Creely's wife was employed in the office, his appointment to the board is improper and he is not a legally appointed board member. Actually Ms. Seaver the only other candidate is the rightful new board member. Anything Creely participates in, or votes on, would nullify anything passed. Other reasons for me not attending: 1. wrongfully called meeting not giving 7 days notice. 2. due process not being followed when bringing complaints or charge against an officer RRO pg, 656. 3. Attending would validate these wrong actions including the invalid board appointee. 4. My attorney advised me not to attend. Leslie D7"
(Edited to add Ms Blyth's board position)

[TomK]

"I shall be more precise. RRO page 655 and 656 states clearly the process required when bringing complaints for discipline or removal of an officer. We have civil rights and due process and the way the agenda has changed, and it is too vague."

I just wish these communications, or whatever they are, could be a little less incoherent and contradictory. Just these first three sentences left me bewildered.