will japan's fall out make it to hawaii?

[PaulW]

"More than 10,000 people have died in the Japanese tsunami and the survivors are cold and hungry. But the media concentrate on nuclear radiation from which no-one has died - and is unlikely to."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842

I don't think Hawaii has anything to worry about.

[Pilgrim]

Is it just me or can anybody else not find the path the radioactive cloud actually took? Forgive me for bringing up this sore subject again, but has anyone found anything? There are a ton of projections from before the fact online but someone has to have tracked the actual radiation - right? Sort of a big event, I'd say. Would that be NOAA or....? So I heard that in Europe they were advised on the day when the "radioactive cloud" was passing. How close did it really come to us in Hawaii?

Maybe this could have some bearing on future events as the situation unfolds with the reactors. Today I was at Down to Earth and noticed a sign at the register limiting customers to 5 bottles of potassium iodide each. At first I laughed - because I know how hysteria can be. Then I wondered, because I know how governments and their media can be.

[punafish]

Pilgrim, while I share your concern about the situation (I have lots of friends and loved ones in Japan), a lot of the news we're getting is hype. I'd feel safe in Tokyo right now; that much safer in Hawaii. This article might make you feel better: http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/s...cle/10329/

Here's my humble opinion...

U.S. Media Coverage of Japan's Disaster: Separating the Pepper from the Fly $h!t http://japaninsight.wordpress.com/2011/0...he-fly-ht/

[PaulW]

Pilgrim, there was no radioactive cloud, which is why there is so little information about where it went and how close it got to Hawaii.
So what day did it pass by Europe, that's what I'd like to know.

Oh no, they're rationing iodine!

[Pilgrim]

A friend of mine living in Northern France included me on an email on his evening of March 23rd, saying that they had been told (officially, I assume) that there was a "cloud of radiation" passing over France. Maybe that just meant that radiation levels were higher than usual there. Yeah - I agree that the media is ever ready to hype.
But ultimately the planet is all connected. (I haven't popped the potassium iodide quite yet.) Thanks for the links, Punafish. Hope your friends in Japan are OK.

[PaulW]

I can only find official press releases from around that time saying that the increase of radioactivity (in France) was minuscule and of absolutely no concern. I guess your friend forgot to include that part.

[Bullwinkle]

http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~tcanty/hysplit/

some good hard data on the plume and its travel

[Pilgrim]

Thanks Bullwinkle - that University of Maryland chart is pretty much what I was looking for.

[Adam-I-Am]

Hello Puna from Japan again. I wish I could agree with all the "there's-nothing-to-worry-about" news — but I'm getting a very sick feeling in my stomach about Fukushima. This is the real deal. "Everything is stable" could be translated into "Japan is hanging by its fingernails." How much longer any one of those containers can contain the heat that's inside is the question. And all those containers are sitting right next to each other. And ALL the pipes and valves and switches and wires got blown up in the hydrogen explosion. And they are all so contaminated that repair work on them is deadly.

The Japanese news does not mention if too often, but the can-do Americans are here and my only hope is that the entire mess will be turned over COMPLETELY to the American nuclear engineers. Tokyo Electric and the government agencies have screwed this up enough.

The radiation dose chart is very good and accurate but it's not the top of the chart that's relevant in Japan now. It's the bottom of the chart that's relevant.

[LeeE]

The Hawaii site I mentioned earlier, still posts the largest amount of regularly updated reports. The most comprehensive coverage I've seen by far.

Aloha,
Lee
http://members.cruzio.com/~lionel/event