TMT Work to Resume Says Ige!

[TomK]

I posted a few days ago that I feared the relationship between the current observatory staff and the protesters might start to break down, and my impression is that's certainly happening. It started when the protesters blocked the road to everyone, including those at Hale Pohaku and those already at the summit. Understanding changed to tolerance and then hostility from the protesters. Observatory staff trying to reach their facilities for urgent maintenance were stopped by rocks in the road and some blatant intimidation and hostility by some protesters. They put people's lives at risk, and the potential of them doing that again needs to be prevented. The behavior of the observatory crews has not changed, but the protesters' has. It became clear at that point their agenda was not just about the TMT, no matter how many times they say that.

Andrew Cooper seems to share my observations.

http://darkerview.com/wordpress/?p=16089

[TomK]

PM2,

I think you may have deleted the post both HOTPE and I replied to. I don't think you needed to do that. I and am sure others don't think it was something you believed if that's what worries you, but I think people should be able to at least see where that nonsense came from. I don't remember the link, but could you repost it? No need to quote the contents if you don't want to. Thanks.

[PunaMauka2]

http://hawaiiindependent.net/story/maint...f-violence

i was having second thoughts about maybe unwittingly helping to spread what are apparently shameless lies and distortions contained within the story as linked above. that's the last thing i would want to do.

but with your input here i think i need not worry so much in this case.

[TomK]

Thanks, and understood. Misinformation can't be corrected without knowing about it though, so appreciate you reposting the link.

I've emailed a few colleagues about the earlier incident (the one about striking the protester in the knees) and no one knows anything about it. I do have other sources to try, but not tonight.

[leilanidude]

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Originally posted by PunaMauka2

http://hawaiiindependent.net/story/maint...f-violence

i was having second thoughts about maybe unwittingly helping to spread what are apparently shameless lies and distortions contained within the story as linked above. that's the last thing i would want to do.

but with your input here i think i need not worry so much in this case.

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That is one of the most biased articles that I have read in a long time!

And the part about the speeding vehicle, which took 30 feet to stop? Must have been going kinda slow.

[kalakoa]

New "emergency" rules for MK access:

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news...kea-access

Notably: no person shall bring or possess "backpack, tents, blankets, tarpaulins, or other obvious camping paraphernalia", with access prohibited between 8PM and 5AM (unless actually driving on the access road).

Obviously, these new rules are "required" to deal with the protestors... because they're apparently not breaking any rules, presently.

[dan d]

I have been volunteering for 10 years at the visitor center at the 9000 ft level, its usually a busy place with lots of locals and tourists wanting to see the beautiful Hawaiian skies
no more

Dan Dolaptchieff

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

the visitor center at the 9000 ft level... usually a busy place with lots of locals and tourists wanting to see the beautiful Hawaiian skies.

no more

As one unnamed major in the US Army said during the Vietnam War, "It became necessary to destroy the town to save it."

On Mauna Kea, the tactics used by protestors have resulted in the loss of access to locals, tourists, almost everyone. In the end, will the protestors destroy the essence of the mountain even as they claim to protect it?

[Chunkster]

My cynical mind sees these new rules as yet another effort by the state get an additional "reset" on the countdown clock to the inevitable necessity to evict and/or arrest the protesters. Now they will have to publish and explain the new regulations before they feel that they can take action, hoping all the time that the problem just goes away. It won't, and they will be back where they started . . . again.

[PunaMauka2]

TomK - "I've emailed a few colleagues about the earlier incident (the one about striking the protester in the knees) and no one knows anything about it. I do have other sources to try, but not tonight."

thanks for checking on this.


Something deeply troubles me about these claims on the part of the protestors of being victims of "violence". Even if "Maintaining Kapu Aloha" is tagged onto the headline, introducing such inflammatory rhetoric and false accusations comes across as almost a desire to instigate a dangerous situation which can be manipulated into playing the role of victim in an attempt to gain sympathy and support through the media.



Incidentally, in the link you provided for 'A Darker View', Andrew Cooper critically references a Will Falk writing for something called the San Diego Free Press. In that purple prose essay written by this Will Falk character he claims to have had his foot run over by a police officer on the mountain...

Will Falk writes: "Trailing the cops on the Mauna Kea Access Road, anticipating another brutal round of arrests, I told myself the incident with my foot was an omen: The cops simply were not going to stop their march up the Mountain for us. No, they would not stop for us, but maybe other beings could stop them."

http://sandiegofreepress.org/2015/06/pro...he-stones/

Waxing poetic indeed. This vehicular assault thing seems to be a trend.

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