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Obie,
Do you own property or live in HPP now? My understanding was that you were a proud resident of Kapoho, are you so bored that you are now focusing your energy on the HPP website and board affairs? This thread is clearly labelled, it isn't as if you have to read it or participate in it if you have no real reason to be so interested in this subdivision's affairs.
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Originally posted by shockwave rider
Obie,
Do you own property or live in HPP now? My understanding was that you were a proud resident of Kapoho, are you so bored that you are now focusing your energy on the HPP website and board affairs? This thread is clearly labelled, it isn't as if you have to read it or participate in it if you have no real reason to be so interested in this subdivision's affairs.
Wow who pissed in your wheaties !
I was drawn into this ongoing soap opera because it is never ending.It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.
I don't think I have ever seen so much energy expended by a group of people trying to destroy their own community.
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Originally posted by Obie
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Originally posted by shockwave rider
Obie,
Do you own property or live in HPP now? My understanding was that you were a proud resident of Kapoho, are you so bored that you are now focusing your energy on the HPP website and board affairs? This thread is clearly labelled, it isn't as if you have to read it or participate in it if you have no real reason to be so interested in this subdivision's affairs.
Wow who pissed in your wheaties !
I was drawn into this ongoing soap opera because it is never ending.It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.
I don't think I have ever seen so much energy expended by a group of people trying to destroy their own community.
Guess you've never lived in a Florida condo, it makes this look like a tea party.
I just wondered why someone who doesn't have any compelling interest like residence or ownership in a subdivision would put time and energy into doing things like communicating with the webmaster. I know I wouldn't involve myself in your subdivision's affairs that way, and I at least used to live there and have an offer out on a lot there now.
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Just trying to be helpful.How many times was it posted that the July minutes were being withheld ? When I clicked on the minutes I saw a 404 error message which means someone made an innocent mistake.
I sent an email nicely pointing that out and it was corrected within a day or 2.
I frequently read the meeting minutes of other subdivisions for the entertainment factor.I am doing it right now because it is pouring down rain.
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Obie: "Just trying to be helpful."
Oh, really? If you were genuinely wanting to be helpful it wouldn't usually come with such a healthy side order of snark and condescension. But if you want to convince yourself that you are just being a good neighbor, go ahead and live in your fantasy world.
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Hey Carol,Why don't you go **** yourself.
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I will see you in court !!!
Sure, that will totally make a difference. Just like with TMT.
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Obie,
Thank you for posting the links. I don't understand why you are being harassed for doing so, or being asked what influence you have with the HPP board. Anyone could have found those links with a little nous.
Disclaimer: I live in HPP and have no problem at all with people posting in this thread, or others, about HPP. If people want to exclude non-HPP residents from commenting on HPP matters, then set up your own private mailing list and post your concerns there.
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Originally posted by Obie:
I was drawn into this ongoing soap opera because it is never ending. It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.
I don't think I have ever seen so much energy expended by a group of people trying to destroy their own community.
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TomK...this post of Obie's wasn't "helpful" by any means. It was condescending and jabbing at HPP members who post on this thread and are concerned w/the few board members who are "trying to destroy our community". Shockwave rider was just calling Obie out which he/she has a right to after Obie made these kinds of comments on an HPP Biz thread.
Tonight the board had discussions about overturning membership votes on 2 items from the last membership mtg. Namely removing the 2 members whom the membership voted onto the Finance Committee. One claimed the 2 were "hostile witnesses to the lawsuit". Another claimed that bc the vote didn't happen in June, more members couldn't be added. This is a membership committee and the membership voted for it.
The discussion intensified when one rep stood up for the membership. He remained professional and stood his ground. He asked why the board didn't speak up at the membership mtg before the membership vote took place. Their reply was that it was a membership mtg. He was adamant that the board couldn't overturn what the membership voted. The board decided to consult w/an attorney to see whether they can legally do this.
Then the VP tried to overturn the membership vote on chip seal to do a test road. The VP obviously didn't care what the membership carefully deliberated over and then voted. She stated that the board has final say. The VP and the former Pres showed their petitions to the board that they had in the office. As I said, this opens the door to members using the office as a venue for petitions too then. Someone from the gallery asked where these people were during the membership mtg. (Petition signatures can't overturn the acts of the membership)
The same board member stood up for the membership again stating he didn't think it was right that the board could go against the membership this way. So the discussion ended w/adding this to the attorney's consultation list as well to see if the board can legally overturn the acts of the membership.
What's the point in the membership having any meetings then? What's the point in the membership voting on anything if the board can overturn whatever they wish? One rep's attitude was flippant stating there was only such and such number of votes at the membership mtg.
The 9th board seat was filled by Randi Larzalere who was on the board previously and resigned back in April.
The board assigned a board rep and the GM to discuss installing more mail boxes in HPP w/the postmaster. He said if we give them one acre that they would provide the mailboxes. I believe all our parcels are designated for parks and schools only?? But this aspect didn't even come up in the board's discussion.
Another questionable action is when did the board approve attorney consultation for HRC's most recent project...changing the employee handbook? There was no board mtg last month. Straw vote? Exec session? This is not a legal matter and should've been voted on at a board mtg.
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"TomK...this post of Obie's wasn't "helpful" by any means. It was condescending and jabbing at HPP members who post on this thread and are concerned w/the few board members who are "trying to destroy our community". Shockwave rider was just calling Obie out which he/she has a right to after Obie made these kinds of comments on an HPP Biz thread."
What nonsense. Obie's post was helpful because he or she gave you links to minutes that people claimed were unavailable. Well, now, thanks to Obie's help, you can read them.
And I will reiterate. If you don't want people from outside HPP making their opinions public on PW, then switch to a private mailing list. I live in HPP and I am embarrassed by the behavior of some of the residents here.
But do you know what? I have no idea if you're an HPP resident, nor do I know if anyone else is. Maybe Obie is a resident. Prove he isn't if you're that concerned.
If you want to limit your discussion to HPP residents only, then start a private mailing list. How hard can that be to understand?
