01-09-2006, 05:15 PM
Our Holiday vacation is over time to get back to work or dreaming......
Framing is what its all about now we really get to see things shaping up. I'd like to open this thread for comments on how some of us will best accomplish this task and by what methods we will choose.
Some will choose stick framing as I am but will you frame w/2x4s or 2x6s or 4x4s or all and will you frame completely on the deck with sheathing attached and lift your walls into place, or build in place and hang your exterior from ladders or staging? I prefer the first method as well as including siding, windows and trim then lift/jack the finished wall into place. See the following site for you do-it-aloners
www.proctorp.com/wallproducts/instructions_p1.html
pretty cool Eh?!?
I will duplicate a set for myself, should be an easy task with everything available at most supply outlets eg; Home De-pot.
Another useful item to make framing friendly is the framing nailer there are only about a dozen or so companies out there. I purchased mine reconditioned with a like new warranty for 130.00 Porter Cable Fr350.
Those of you thinking you can get by with a hammer, have at it, but consider yourself warned. I built my first house with hammers and holy blisters and I worked with wrenches all day for a living. I had blisters on my blisters. For the first two weeks, at the end of each day, I couldn't hold a glass/beer bottle without dropping it. Arm gets really tired. I tried to take a blow count one time, using 1 starting blow with 2 swings to drive a 16d common nail lost track after the first bazillion blows.
I always try to remember to remind myself to follow the load path whileframing, studs over joists rafters over studs blocking as needed in the floor bays for interior walls.
Blocking is a step worth considering, while code may have you adding blocking for fire reasons I would mention locating blocking between studs at different heights for things like picture hooks, wainscotting, towel rods, cabinets and soffits. Once the interior walls are done you'll be glad you did this. You diy's should also remember to include your strong ties as you go.
CODE QUESTION: Does the county allow for glued 4x8 sheathing as an acceptable means of shear protection or do you have to diagonally strap the frame corners as well. I prefer the gluing method as it keeps the sheathing very flat and when lookind down the wall after it is sided the wall will look nice and flat. I hate a wavy wall, don't you?
There is also almost as much cutting here as nailing so another handy tool to have around is a chop saw or thinking further ahead a 12"sliding compound miter saw will take you from start to finsh of your new home. It will be capable of handling material up to 12" wide. Please don't think you can do this with a skill saw it just doesn't.....
Should the thought bother you of what to do with all these expensive tools when its over, then don't build your own house hire it out. Owning and learning what these new tools can do for you is part of the wonderful new you that you'll become and some of you I'm sure will go on to build many other wonderous things. Like garages and dog kennels or outhouses and shopping malls...and YAH YAH YAH I know Bla Bla Bla))))) OK I'm gone
Aloha ; HADave
Edited by - HADave on 01/09/2006 21:43:38
Framing is what its all about now we really get to see things shaping up. I'd like to open this thread for comments on how some of us will best accomplish this task and by what methods we will choose.
Some will choose stick framing as I am but will you frame w/2x4s or 2x6s or 4x4s or all and will you frame completely on the deck with sheathing attached and lift your walls into place, or build in place and hang your exterior from ladders or staging? I prefer the first method as well as including siding, windows and trim then lift/jack the finished wall into place. See the following site for you do-it-aloners
www.proctorp.com/wallproducts/instructions_p1.html
pretty cool Eh?!?
I will duplicate a set for myself, should be an easy task with everything available at most supply outlets eg; Home De-pot.
Another useful item to make framing friendly is the framing nailer there are only about a dozen or so companies out there. I purchased mine reconditioned with a like new warranty for 130.00 Porter Cable Fr350.
Those of you thinking you can get by with a hammer, have at it, but consider yourself warned. I built my first house with hammers and holy blisters and I worked with wrenches all day for a living. I had blisters on my blisters. For the first two weeks, at the end of each day, I couldn't hold a glass/beer bottle without dropping it. Arm gets really tired. I tried to take a blow count one time, using 1 starting blow with 2 swings to drive a 16d common nail lost track after the first bazillion blows.
I always try to remember to remind myself to follow the load path whileframing, studs over joists rafters over studs blocking as needed in the floor bays for interior walls.
Blocking is a step worth considering, while code may have you adding blocking for fire reasons I would mention locating blocking between studs at different heights for things like picture hooks, wainscotting, towel rods, cabinets and soffits. Once the interior walls are done you'll be glad you did this. You diy's should also remember to include your strong ties as you go.
CODE QUESTION: Does the county allow for glued 4x8 sheathing as an acceptable means of shear protection or do you have to diagonally strap the frame corners as well. I prefer the gluing method as it keeps the sheathing very flat and when lookind down the wall after it is sided the wall will look nice and flat. I hate a wavy wall, don't you?
There is also almost as much cutting here as nailing so another handy tool to have around is a chop saw or thinking further ahead a 12"sliding compound miter saw will take you from start to finsh of your new home. It will be capable of handling material up to 12" wide. Please don't think you can do this with a skill saw it just doesn't.....
Should the thought bother you of what to do with all these expensive tools when its over, then don't build your own house hire it out. Owning and learning what these new tools can do for you is part of the wonderful new you that you'll become and some of you I'm sure will go on to build many other wonderous things. Like garages and dog kennels or outhouses and shopping malls...and YAH YAH YAH I know Bla Bla Bla
))))) OK I'm goneAloha ; HADave
Edited by - HADave on 01/09/2006 21:43:38
Aloha HADave & Mz P
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The best things in life are free.... or have no interest or payments for one full year.