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lava viewing platform (in a few months)
#21
As one of the private owners, I am not pleased.

That's too bad, you should have thought of that before you moved there.

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#22
Cute.
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#23
As one of the private owners...

Own land in Hawaii County!
You’ll have all the rights and privileges of a tourist who pays an entry fee to look at your property! But that’s not all! You too are entitled to pay the same price of admission, then herded into a viewing area where you can proudly point out to Joe B. from Rockford, Illinois, “see that lava there? That’s mine! No not there, a little to the left, yes, that’s it!”
“We do this thing not because it is easy, but because we thought it would be easy.”
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#24
Cute.

That's one word for it.

Search these forums and you'll see the same sentiment repeated often, especially as regards the "privately owned (but open to the public)" roads. Apparently, anyone living in the country needs to "perform own due diligence" when opting for "cheap land and low taxes".

When it turns out that your subdivision roads are both not maintained and cannot be closed to the public, well ... you should have thought of that before you moved there. Usually someone from one of the better subdivisions chimes in with "well we have nice roads because we paid for them", and of course there's the HPP "paying mandatory dues and not getting any road maintenance".

I used to think the roads should all be real public roads, but then look around downtown Hilo to see what that gets you. Gee, I wonder where all the money went?
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#25
My road off my property was not private, it is public. Maintained by the county. But the property adjacent to each side of those roads is private. Which brings us to the point that the lava viewing area will be as they say down by the Y on Pohoiki. Hence tourists will be tramping all over the place to see the lava on private property if they divert from Pohoiki road.
Either side of the road by the Y or on Pohoiki is private. Hence the cute reply to your statement thinking that we all should have known that the county was going to use private land for their viewing platform.
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#26
we all should have known that the county was going to use private land for their viewing platform

No different than County deciding to use "private" Road 8 in Hawaiian Acres for their "Emergency Access Route".

Government doesn't need to honor its own rules or respect the rights of others.
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#27
Government doesn't need to honor its own rules or respect the rights of others.

It’s the only circumstance under which they operate with prompt efficiency.
“We do this thing not because it is easy, but because we thought it would be easy.”
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#28
kander - Either side of the road by the Y or on Pohoiki is private

The land immediately at or before the Y is state land. This is where the area makai of 132 was cleared to prep for the lava viewing before.
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_di...=hi_hawaii&KEY=140010040000

As for Leilani Ave, you guys still want it (and the costs to clear the lava and maintain it)?
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#29
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Originally posted by kalakoa

No different than County deciding to use "private" Road 8 in Hawaiian Acres for their "Emergency Access Route".

Government doesn't need to honor its own rules or respect the rights of others.


Then the private subdivisions should make gated communities instead of allowing everyone right of way. We all know how popular that would be. It might force the county to condemn the roads and be forced to maintain them. Naww, who am I kidding.. not in Hawaii county.
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#30
private subdivisions should make gated communities instead

Isn't Leilani attempting exactly this?

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