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There is an older thread talking about cost of drafting services and architect stamp cost, but it is about 10 years old.
So wondering if anyone has some up to date cost.
for example, if you brought in some sketches or CAD drawings of what you want, what would the cost be to come up with a set of drawings ready to be submitted to the Building Dept.
and what is the cost for an architect stamps on them?
Is Smelker the only one that will stamp plans that he did not draw?
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08-29-2024, 01:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-29-2024, 01:26 AM by BlackAkita.)
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Q: Is Smelker the only one that will stamp plans that he did not draw?
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If you are referring to Robert C. Smelker, my draftsman says yes if he knows and has worked with that person. We may be getting started with having the draftsman produce an As-Built blueprint of a house and the surrounding property. This is as new to me as to the OP. My wife fell in love with what I would call a "gingerbread" home in Pahoa, and willing to bear the costs (if not exorbitant) for the stamped plans, plumbing, electrical, and construction expenses to get the permit and signed-off completion certificate. Excuse me if some of the terminology is incorrect in this post. I've dealt with permits on Oahu (cost us over $85K for a structural engineer, permit, and contractor). The engineer was an expert with divining rods. The state inspector had eagle eyes and flagged us for an unrelated item that needed repairs.
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Take your CAD drawings to Robert Smelker and ask him how much to draw them up? He's probably going to be the one to sign them, he may as well draw them? There aren't many who can or will sign plans for anyone they've not been working with before.
There are a few things that can be built without a permit, although non of them are 'dwellings'. To get a permitted 'no permit necessary' building, it needs drawings to be submitted to the County so it can be officially noted as not needing a permit.
There was a certain size and type of dwelling which could be built without stamps, I forget the exact specifications on that though, and it's been years since I've looked it up. It was on the County webpage, if I remember correctly. But, designing a building within the 'no stamp necessary' parameters would save the cost and effort of finding someone to stamp them.
Currently, the drafting projects here seem to be running around $4,500 for the smaller ones (2,000 sq ft or less) and $6,000 for the bigger ones. That's just the drawing, doesn't include the architect/engineer stamp, that'd add in an additional $2K - $3K or more. As well as the septic engineer, figure an additional $2K - $3K. The permit fee itself isn't too bad, that's per square foot and on the County website.
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I was given the name of this service in my hunt for a draftsman and architect.
https://allkindsdraftingservices.com/
The draftsman is on the big island and the architect is on Oahu. I was particularly interested in as-built plan, not a new plan for a structure. The latter is viewed more favorably by businesses, as more and more professionals are abandoning old structures that need to be brought up to code. Everyone seems to be very busy now, and finding both specialties (drafting and architecture) can be nerve wracking and time consuming.
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11-18-2024, 10:37 PM
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(10-19-2024, 06:02 AM)BlackAkita Wrote: Thanks for the reference below.
I am not looking to get an older building permited, but in my research I did come across some info about that.
Basically what I found was this.....
Everyone says, you just have to bring the building up to code and the Bldg Dept willl give you and AS BUILT permit.
Well the problem then becomes how do you show the building is up to code? ( lets assume it was well bulit, so not much you need to fix or replace). One of the big things they want to see that is up to code is the electrical and the plumbing.
most of that stuff is in the walls or in the the ground. Since Hawaii law says only a licensed plumber and electrican can do that work, and they have to be listed on the permit, That becomes the big obstical. You need to find an electrcian and a plumber that is willing to sign a permit for work they did not do. AND,, the building inpsector may require you to open up walls to see the work.
Now if it is older house that is single wall and on post and peir, seeing the work might not be a big deal since most of the stuff will be visable from below. But still have to find the contractors. They might want some of it redone before they sign off.
Now since it is already hard to just find contractors to do new work, I can imagine it is almost impossible to find ones that wll do the above.
Plus, not sure if any architects/engineers will sign off on single wall construction , assuming the county wil even let them
I would be interested to hear if the County will even let you get permit for single wall house since current code does not allow you to build one...
You might want to go down to the Building Dept and talk to them about it before you even start this journey.
as for me, I am building a detacted garage.
I got my plans from Argus Building supply. They have several pre-designed homes and garages.
The process was pretty easy, I picked the garage size I was looking for. Then gave them some details on what I wanted.
For example, I wanted 9 ft walls, trusses ( argus said rafters were cheaper), I wanted 2 windows and 1 walk-in door, and I speced out the eves and gable overhang dimensions etc.
To keep cost down and to get through permiting quick, I said no plumbing or electrical
So plans were only 3 pages.
They gave me architect signed plans ready for the permit for total cost of $2640 ( That was Jan 2024)
break down was
plans - 1440 ( for 960 sq ft)
architect stamp 500
admin fee 700
Drafter was Daniel Bona
Architect was Robert Smelker
my only compliant with the process, it took much longer to get the final signed drawings than they quoted me.
I ordered and paid for the plans on Jan 4 ,,, submitted the plans to building dept on May 16
Argus told me 4 to 6 weeks to get the plans.
Part of the delay,, took long time for draftsman to start on the drawings. Then apparently he did not get my detailed info on what I wanted or just ignored it. For example, I asked for 9 ft walls and 2 windows. 1st draft came back just like Argus standard plans, 4 windows and 8 ft wall.
So took another month to update. No one ever contacted me to confrim what I wanted. Simple email would have done that and saved a lot of time and extra work for the drafter....
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I was given the name of this service in my hunt for a draftsman and architect.
https://allkindsdraftingservices.com/
The draftsman is on the big island and the architect is on Oahu. I was particularly interested in as-built plan, not a new plan for a structure. The latter is viewed more favorably by businesses, as more and more professionals are abandoning old structures that need to be brought up to code. Everyone seems to be very busy now, and finding both specialties (drafting and architecture) can be nerve wracking and time consuming.
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