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Petitions are only slightly more effective than thoughts and prayers.
Indeed, they can be incredibly powerful as they incorporate thoughts and prayer.
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Even though this is almost 10 years old, but this is still the best explanation of what "thoughts and prayers" really means:
(CAUTION: Contains adult language, viewer discretion is advised)
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This is functionally the same as when a cat is released to hunt native birds.
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Thoughts and prayers only work for people who think and pray.
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(12-07-2024, 11:57 PM)Punatang Wrote: Thoughts and prayers only work for people who think and pray. 
With respect, I
think that needs rewording. When was the last time it was verified that a prayer was answered and it worked?
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(12-08-2024, 10:15 AM)TomK Wrote: (12-07-2024, 11:57 PM)Punatang Wrote: Thoughts and prayers only work for people who think and pray. 
With respect, I think that needs rewording. When was the last time it was verified that a prayer was answered and it worked?
The intention of this statement is almost always concerned and positive but overuse has rendered it a meaningless cliche that in many situations can actually be offensive to me. How about
thinking of a more pertinent, individualized comment for the given situation?
Such as, a petition that allows signers to include a personalized statement on the matter at hand.
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How about thinking of a more pertinent,
Petitions, thoughts, prayers could be effective if it’s the first action you take to address a problem. But probably not if it’s the first and last thing you do.
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12-08-2024, 06:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-08-2024, 07:04 PM by Punatang.)
If there was no "God," then there would be no monks, and we would need a new title for this thread. Fair enough?
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(12-08-2024, 06:56 PM)Punatang Wrote: If there was no "God," then there would be no monks, and we would need a new title for this thread. Fair enough? 
A little monk humor:
https://youtu.be/YgYEuJ5u1K0?si=79DnDWnPUGjD7JZ7
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There is no God, and those monk seals should have evolved some defenses. I hope they didn't waste that perfectly good meat. Have a blessed Sunday.
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