Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs

[Obie]

That door would work for you too Patricia if only you would heed your own words.
You are done here, there is nothing else to say about roads that you haven't said at least 100 times.
What is it going to take to get you to move on.
If there is anyone who hasn't heard your constant drone, I would wish they would speak up and encourage you.

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Whale watching was a rainout, maybe today.

This is Scuba Sunday. I have things to do and the weather is a little iffy, so I won't be going.

Any other ideas for things to do today ?

[HiloJulie]

TomK, if your head was any larger you would be unable to bluster your way into the Narendra Modi Stadium (And yes, I used "was" instead of "were." As the comparative enormity of your ego isn't meant as "hypothetical.")

As for The PW 7. You are assuming PW was short for PunaWeb? How limited of you. That said, perhaps adding "magnificent" would work.

Glad you did not "miss" the due date for the $435 annual HPPOA Road Fees. But then, you wouldnt- you're so clever.

If you have nothing else to add to the road topic, please don't forget to pull (not push) on the door, and don't let it hit you on the way out.

I would say that launching "A simple and silent" protest that achieves nothing or in any way impacts the organization you are protesting against in any way shape or form from what your purported goal is is pretty damn egotistical and in no way can be considered "clever" and further, means nothing to the topic of roads.

[Obie]

Patricia is kind of quiet.

She's probably sitting in a corner holding her breath until she turns blue as a protest.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

there is nothing else to say about roads that you haven't said at least 100 times.

Yes, I agree.
There is very little, probably nothing new about HPP roads posted in the last 40 pages.
Patricia, I would ask if you really want to keep this topic relevant, to read any comments you are about to post, consider whether it has been said before, use the Punaweb search feature if necessary, and if it’s nothing new, don’t post.  It’s not going to further your crusade.  It mostly has the reverse effect.

Case in point - I will definitely pay my road bill before the last day it is due. If for no other reason than to offset the handful of people who might wait until the last day as some kind of protest.

[Patricia]

I would say that launching "A simple and silent" protest that achieves nothing or in any way impacts the organization you are protesting against in any way shape or form from what your purported goal is is pretty damn egotistical and in no way can be considered "clever" and further, means nothing to the topic of roads.

"Achieves nothing or in any way impacts the organization?: Then why are some of you so hot and bothered about my suggesting a protest?

Rethink. HPPOA does not believe, does not want to, that HPP owners are not satisfied with HPPOA's "service." In fact, HPPOA is adamant that just about all HPP Owners (and only a "small fraction") have any complaints about HPPOA at all. But perhaps that is not the case. Perhaps there are more disgruntled HPP owners than HPPOA would like to consider or admit to.

Every month the HPPOA treasurer reads the financial report. Every month the report states the amount of accounts receivable and how much in road fees has been collected. If HPP Owners are disatisfied and wait to pay, resulting in the next 3 months of those reported, collected amounts of road fees being unusually low, should that not give HPPOA pause to consider why that may be? Which is why I will encourage those HPP owners, who are not satisfied with HPPOA's "service," to hold off and not pay until the very last day.

There is nothing egotistical about "simple and silent." And as far as I am aware protest in this country is still allowed (at least, for now). And RESTRICTED road fee money is about roads. 

So...

Suggesting a simple and silent protest to send a message to the HPPOA board that some are not happy that their RESTRICTED road fees are being used for other non-road related projects, has nothing to do with ego. This is ALL about the roads.

So...

Make HPPOA wait!

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HOTPE whenever you pay your road fee bill and for whatever reason is up to you. As I have said before, whatever others decide to do or not is up to them.

Obie, if you do not like the thread, then do not read it, do not comment on it. Just walk away. For someone who wants this thread and its related topics to die you sure spend an inordinate amount of time here. (That is what some of you want, for the thread to die- correct? You have all attempted every tactic imaginable aside from actually closing it down and censorship.)

If you do not want to read the thread- don't
If you are not interested in the topics on this thread- then feel free not to comment.
If you think my information is incorrect or false, but you have no hard facts to back up your complaints- then perhaps it would be better to research why and HOW my information is incorrect and false and then you could present that research (it would cut down on a lot of unnecessary back and forth- hence, less pages)
If you do not personally like me- that is your perogative and right, but the constant barrage of attacks and truly UNFOUNDED assumptions are nothing short of harassment and some of you doing what others who do not agree have done before (discredit, chase away and if that does not work take away their "Pentagon pass.")

I am not sure how many of you can step back long enough to see how you are behaving, and how much like those you criticize and feel you are superior to (emotionally, intellectually, democratically) you are truly emulating. 

If you do not agree- FINE. 
Feel FREE to walk away.

[HiloJulie]

"Make HPPOA wait!"

For what? Hell to freeze over?

You seem to think that by everyone waiting until the last day to pay their road fees is somewhat a form of punishment. And the ego in you makes it into a "well deserved" punishment. 

I have explained, in basic English language as well as shown how the accounting principles work that HPPOA uses that you are NOT in any way punishing anything that HPPOA is or does. It is a nonsensical topic that, outside of you continually posting your completely wrong, misguided and quite frankly useless method of protest is not doing one damn thing to the organization you are protesting.

Further, according to the June 30, 2024 audited financial statements, HPPOA is sitting on 4.1 million in "liquid cash" another 2.2 million of "cash" in short term Certificates of Deposit as well as 1.9 million in "cash" in "deferred" road fees - which are road fees paid to HPPOA for future years outside of the current fiscal year - in other words, HPP residents have "prepaid" their road fees to the tune of 1.9 million. In "cash."

So, for the 100th plus time, your "simple and silent protest" is a fool's errand. And really is nothing more than about you being egotistical and speaking about something you have no real knowledge about.

And I know you can't admit you are wrong. To the handful of a few dozen followers, you fancy yourself as their "messiah" who can do and speak no wrong. (And the ego it takes to be that)

Even when, as you are in this "simple and silent protest" completely wrong.

[Patricia]

HiloJulie, the protest has NOTHING to do with causing HPPOA financial harm. How are you missing that simple point?

The protest has to do with the fact that IF others are disatisfied with HPPOA's "service" and do not pay until the last day, THIS will be reflected in the treasurer's monthly report. Simple.

IF HPP Owners wish to show their dissatisfaction with HPPOA's "service" and they do not pay until the last day, there is no name-signing, hand-raising, or ballot-submitting. Not paying until the last day is a passive action that sends a message. Hence, silent.

[MyManao]

I know I can't admit I am wrong.

You and your doppelgänger, so sweet so special, so made for each other. It's *almost* entertaining watching the two of you.. almost.

[Patricia]

It's *almost* entertaining watching the two of you.. almost.

MyManao, again, your handle does not suit you as you do not seem able to engage in contemplative thought before commenting.

Feel FREE to walk away.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

If you do not agree- FINE.
Feel FREE to walk away.

I don’t believe there are any here who continue to read this thread for masochistic reasons. Speaking for myself, you have posted enough factually incorrect information, that if no one holds you in check, it could get even worse. If that’s somehow possible.

And yes, I know you don’t believe that’s true and you have many arguments that will prove (to you and almost nobody else) that it’s not.