Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs

[HiloJulie]

Patricia at home, with the "PunaWeb 7"

   

[Patricia]

Well, at least you managed to get the glasses part right. But that's about it (I would never wear stripes. Especially horozontal ones.)

Just like all your other comments, HiloJulie, you have obviously not done your research.

When you're finally serious, have spent time, money, EFFORT, and have some HARD COPY FACTS you would like to share about HPPOA, give me a ring.

**** I have removed the cartoon (Mr. Larson's) as his company FarWorks Inc., I believe, would object. They seem to be sticklers about the use of Mr. Larson's work- rightfully so. It is odd that someone else, who worked copyright for him, does not seem to know this and posted (first) a Mr. Larson cartoon herself***

[HiloJulie]

"Just like all your other comments, HiloJulie, you have obviously not done your research."

I was Gary Larson's copyright lawyer for over 20 years, so yes, I've done my research!

Oh, the phone call was for MyManao, not me!

[Patricia]

I was Gary Larson's copyright lawyer for over 20

My, my, will your talents never cease. 

I wasn't talking about Gary Larson. But then, again, you know that.

Nah, I'm pretty sure the phone call was you. Huffing and puffing is more your style. MM is all about bait and bite.

[Obie]

"Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs"

This is the original topic , Patricia.

Could you please explain this with facts ? If I recall correctly you explained this with your opinion.

Also when you are finished explaining it with historical documents, court cases or even one fact, this subject will be dead and the subject should be locked. Of course since it was your opinion to begin with, it can't be explained using the guidelines that you have set forth for any of us to dispute anything you say.

Could you also explain how withholding road fees until the deadline to pay can be a silent protest when you have stated over and over that you aren't going to pay until the due date ? That's not a silent protest.

"A silent protest is an organized effort where the participants stay quiet to demonstrate disapproval."

[HiloJulie]

"Huffing and puffing is more your style."

Funny thing happened this morning when Barney took myself and as well as my 15-year-old grandson who spent the weekend with us to hide from the storm, on his morning walk in the Acres. Of course, Barney insisted that he had his harness and leash attached, which we did very securely, but we were all talking about your "silent protest" of having everyone pay their road fees all on the same day when, and your seemingly never-ending repeating of "pay on the last day" over and over - when of all things, my 15-year-old grandson wondered aloud:

"I can only think of one reason why a person would try to get everyone to pay all at once." 

I said, "oh, do tell me more."

He says, "what a better way to have a huge amount of money all in one place at one time and knowing about it. I wonder, how much do you think would be in cash?" 

Hmmm, I said. Out of the mouths of babes, hey?

Barney nodded but, sad to say, not only did he bark rather loudly, but also offered his muttered growls in agreement.

[Patricia]

"what a better way to have a huge amount of money all in one place at one time and knowing about it. I wonder, how much do you think would be in cash?"

As I said, I don't believe in conspiracy theories, and I doubt there would be that much cash. Seriously? How many are just going to hand HPPOA cash? Checks maybe. But most I talk to are going to bite the bullet, pay by card, and cough up the $13.05 "convenience fee."

In addition, how more likely is it that if someone is going to try to steal cash, they would wait in hiding to jump individual HPP owners and separate them from their $435? That's usually what happens at the ATMs in Hilo. (One of the reasons I am not big on cash transactions.)

When our 15 year old granddaughter came to visit, we took her and her friend touring and ended the day with a nice dinner and never ONCE talked about HPPOA politics or PW. You should try it.

[HiloJulie]

**** I have removed the cartoon (Mr. Larson's) as his company FarWorks Inc., I believe, would object. They seem to be sticklers about the use of Mr. Larson's work- rightfully so. It is odd that someone else, who worked copyright for him, does not seem to know this and posted (first) a Mr. Larson cartoon herself***

First, as I post this response, the cartoon you claim you removed, is still showing.

Secondly, if you had done one modicum of research, you would know the difference in copyrighted works and then what is in the "public domain."

If the cartoon is on the "internet" in its full form, it is in "the public domain."

If it was a copyrighted work, the cartoon would be watermarked and/or somewhat distorted or pixelated, and you would have had to pay a fee to get the full unedited cartoon.

Again, research. A wonderful thing. You should try it sometime!

[Patricia]

Thanks Obie, apparently there was another step I needed to perform to remove it.

I do not know how much of Gary Larson's work is in the public domain. And you are correct, I have not researched that- YET. But I do know that there is a company called FarWorks which handles all of his copyright concerns:

"..all comics, artwork, text, photos, video, images, icons, characters, logos, designs, layouts, domain names, URLs, and other content and materials included in or relating to the Site (with the exception of User Materials, Third-Party Content, and AMU Materials, all as defined below), together with the overall appearance and look and feel of the Site and all copyrights, trademarks, trade dress, derivative works, and other intellectual property rights therein, are the sole and exclusive property of FarWorks or Gary Larson (collectively the "FarWorks Content")"

[HiloJulie]

Thanks Obie, apparently there was another step I needed to perform to remove it.

I do not know how much of Gary Larson's work is in the public domain. And you are correct, I have not researched that- YET. But I do know that there is a company called FarWorks which handles all of his copyright concerns:

"..all comics, artwork, text, photos, video, images, icons, characters, logos, designs, layouts, domain names, URLs, and other content and materials included in or relating to the Site (with the exception of User Materials, Third-Party Content, and AMU Materials, all as defined below), together with the overall appearance and look and feel of the Site and all copyrights, trademarks, trade dress, derivative works, and other intellectual property rights therein, are the sole and exclusive property of FarWorks or Gary Larson (collectively the "FarWorks Content")"

First, why would you thank Obie?

Secondly, I'll let you have three guesses who wrote the italicized words above.

Thirdly, FarWorks, Inc. is the production company of Gary Larson. In as much as the cartoon I posted is indeed copyrighted by FarWorks, Inc., as well as Gary Larson, it resides in the "public domain."

Now, if someone were to take one of Gary's cartoons and try to use it for their own financial gain, that COULD be an issue without permission, but then there are various clauses in US Copyright law that sunset certain copyrights automatically over a period of 10, 15, 25, 50, 100 years, so that may or not be an issue.

Since the cartoon I posted is not being used for any monetary gain, it falls well within the scope of the "fair use doctrine" as well as it being in the "public domain."

But leave it to you Patricia, to argue copyright law with a copyright attorney. I am sure I am just a buffoon and should bow to your unbridled expertise of the occupation I held for almost 40 years.

Just a suggestion, if a doctor tells you that you have cancer, I'd suggest listening to the doctor and not arguing with them.