"Super-Aged" population a challenge for Hawaii

[MyManao]

MyMan,  bahrahhh, I can show you in your posts in the last week that you are, deep down, one of the more MAGA members of  Punaweb...

Good luck with that P’tang.. when you consider I am of the mind that every

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[randomq]

Why vote at all, if you can't accept the results? Why have a democracy, if you are fine with people invading congress to stop and attack elected officials? Why have a cabinet, if there are no qualifications for it's members? Why have allies, if you just resort to threats for everything you want? Why fund science or schools, when everyone can just work in third world jobs?

Yes, the MAGA case is very compelling for a Hawaii wanting to return to the Kingdom days. Kiss the king's okole or lose everything.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

a Hawaii wanting to return to the Kingdom days. Kiss the king's okole or lose everything.

At least the Hawaiian king offered some kind of self defense.  Puʻuhonua o Hōnaunau, The City of Refuge.

Our The new king-like entity smashes out car windows (only if it’s not a Tesla, that’s a felony), throws a bag over your head, sends you off somewhere with no questions answered for your family, or you, then shackled to a plane seat to be dumped in a foreign prison.  With claims there’s no way back.  Even the City of Refuge had a way back if you got there. 

And at least some odds in your favor.

[ironyak]

Yak: Oh this will be interesting... Tang: Right? I'm stoked you think so.
Yeah, did not disappoint! Haven't heard that solution offered by "MSDNC" or any of the other MSM "agitprop" outlets - maybe more free thinking than some might appreciate. However, taking a few weeks off to focus on reality and breathe in the fresh air does seem like good advice for self-care: at least outside in Puna there are a lot more wrong trees to bark up!

More on topic - some questions being raised as to whether "Super-Aged" Ed Case is up to the challenge for Hawaii. Surely we have enough younger workers to better fulfill this one job? Or have the political, population, and social security pyramids become too aged and inverted to prop up?

Let's see what the CATO institute thinks (which no Republican ever supports or advocates for, and Elon never mimics, trust me bro): https://www.cato.org/blog/truth-about-so...nzi-scheme

Hawaii may not be able to offer a place of refuge if people don't do the work needed.

[Punatang]

 Yak - some questions being raised as to whether "Super-Aged" Ed Case is up to the challenge for Hawaii. Surely we have enough younger workers to better fulfill this one job? Or have the political, population, and social security pyramids become too aged and inverted to prop up?


What questions are being raised?

Do you feel that at 72 years old he is too old to effectively serve us?

What is the Iron Yak approved mandatory retirement age for our kupuna?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Gotta love the CATO cherry pickers, doing the work that people who know history and mathematics won’t do:

From the link above:
Over that time, the total taxes deducted from her salary amounted to a mere $24.75. Yet her first monthly check came in at $22.54, almost matching her entire contribution. Over the course of her lifetime, Fuller collected $22,888.92 in Social Security benefits.

No mention that original social security kicked in at 65 years old, when the average lifespan was 64?

Here in Puna, I bought my house when I was still working for 5 times less than it’s worth now.  Prices for most everything have gone up even more, very little if anything is less.  My neighbor on social security got a bid on a new roof, $100,000.  When he bought his home you could get an entire 3 bedroom house in Puna for that price. Social security ain’t paying for his roof.  Can you really compare what you paid in to soc sec to what you receive when cost of living increases are manipulated to pay as small an increase as possible? And you might even die early and get nothing.

When I moved to Puna I could buy 5 (or more on a good day) papayas at the market for $1.  A family member visiting recently bought one for $1 last week, but the vendor gave him a discount.

Next on the chopping block - - Head Start.  Puna has one of highest enrollments in Head Start and it helps keep as many kids in school here as possible.  If the proposed cuts pass congress we’ll have even more dropouts, kids less likely to find work, and pay FICA.  How does that improve the future of East Hawai’i?

[ironyak]

Punatang - What questions are being raised?
Thanks for asking! (appreciate the teamwork - you set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down :)

Hawaiʻi Rep. Ed Case Angers Democrats Over ‘Proof Of Citizenship’ Vote
https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/04/hawai%...ship-vote/
"A Hawaiʻi congressman was one of four Democrats to cross party lines Thursday and vote with Republicans to pass a controversial measure that would require people to show proof of citizenship before they could register to vote.

U.S. Rep. Ed Case, a moderate Hawaiʻi Democrat, said in an email that people who aren’t citizens shouldn’t vote and the legislation helps ensure that. He thinks concerns that it will lead to significant voter suppression are overblown.

The vote to pass the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, or SAVE Act, was 220-208.

Case’s decision to vote in favor of a measure that was strongly denounced by Democrats — even Hawaiʻi Attorney General Anne Lopez has already joined a lawsuit opposing a similar Trump administration executive order — angered Democrats, including in Hawaiʻi.
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Hawaiʻi’s other Democratic Rep. Jill Tokuda, who represents Hawaiʻi’s 2nd Congressional District, voted against the SAVE Act.

The legislation would make it so that having a driver’s license “isn’t enough to vote,” the congresswoman posted on X. “You’d need a birth certificate with your current legal name, or a passport.”

Tokuda said in her tweet that that would be a problem, as 70 million women who married and changed their name would not be able to vote and that 48% of Americans lack passports.

“That’s voter suppression,” she said. “I voted no.”

Case’s vote for the SAVE Act also goes against the official position of the state of Hawaiʻi." (more at link)

Tang - What is the Iron Yak approved mandatory retirement age...
Whenever they are unable to actually do the job needed, which in this case is protecting democracy and the right to vote, not helping to suppress it.

At least some people of all ages in Hawaii are still putting in the work to rise to the challenge: https://www.staradvertiser.com/2025/04/1...-save-act/

Edge - Next on the chopping block - - Head Start ... How does that improve the future of East Hawai’i?
That's a difficult question... Want to take that one Tang?

[Punatang]

OK, because it sounded like you were saying you think he's too old when you said, "Surely we have enough younger workers to better fulfill this one job?"

Of course the extreme left wants non citizens to be able to vote.  

83% of Americans agree with Ed Case so it's an easy call.  Thank goodness for the wisdom of our elders. 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/652523/amer...ation.aspx

[MyManao]

The legislation would make it so that having a driver’s license “isn’t enough to vote,”

Interesting that the feds, over the last decade, have already put every one of us through the exercise of proving ourselves with their requirement that we produce a valid, certified, paper trail to our birth and any name changes that have been made along the way, with our driver license renewal. Seriously, they even gave us gold stars when we jumped through the hoops. I got one, and the TSA folks love it. But of course, good ol' Ed couldn't figure that out...

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

the extreme left wants non citizens to be able to vote. 

Nobody wants noncitizens to vote.

I think there were two instances of voter fraud since Hawaii became a state.  In 1959.  If you don’t include Tulsi Gabbard who claimed her primary residence is in Texas but then voted illegally in Hawaii.  That would be three. 

So what’s the point because voter fraud in other states is also nearly nonexistent. Other than keeping woman and poor people from casting a ballot.  The fraudulent voter is a boogie man for conservative tv horror news.  Scary, but if you check the statistics in the closet or under the bed there’s nothing there.

Every vote counts?  Not if you can target woman and minorities and make them jump through extra hoops.  Why?  Do they tend to vote more often for human rights rather than tax cuts?  Can’t have that if there’s a way to prevent it.