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Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) raids in Hawaii
#71
(06-17-2025, 04:23 AM)kalianna Wrote: Thanks, but yes, paywalled..

It wasn't for me.. but then I haven't gone to the WaPo in ages, so maybe I get a freebie?

Here's the first few paragraphs..

The Department of Homeland Security on Monday told staff that it was reversing guidance issued last week that agents were not to conduct immigration raids at farms, hotels and restaurants — a decision that stood at odds with President Donald Trump’s calls for mass deportations of anyone without legal status.

Officials from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, including its Homeland Security Investigations division, told agency leaders in a call Monday that agents must continue conducting immigration raids at agricultural businesses, hotels and restaurants, according to two people familiar with the call. The new instructions were shared in an 11 a.m. call to representatives from 30 field offices across the country.


ICE and HSI field office supervisors began learning about a likely reversal of the exemption policy Sunday after hearing from DHS leadership that the White House did not support it, according to one person with knowledge of the reversal.

The rest just fluffs it out with history etc..
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#72
I know the backstory but my original questions remains.  Does the article say that workers at a Kona coffee farm were arrested today?  Iʻm skeptical that WaPo seems to be the only news source because I would think local media would be all over it.  Unless theyʻre just slow, which happens.
Certainty will be the death of us.
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#73
OR unless Iʻm slow and misinterpreted the post to actually be about Hawaii, which it seems like it is not. Just more national politics which really donʻt belong on Puna web. Am I wrong?
Certainty will be the death of us.
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#74
Just more national politics which really donʻt belong on Puna web. Am I wrong?
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Seems to be allowed as long as your post leans hard left.
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#75
misinterpreted the post to actually be about Hawaii
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allowed as long as your post leans hard left.


Would you be affected by this news if you were a coffee grower (how many on Big Island?) or a housekeeping manager at a hotel, time share, resort (how many on Big Island?) or a worker at those businesses, because even if you have all your papers in order you may be asked to work a double shift, or no days off to fill in for someone who disappeared?

A knee jerk, ping pong change in “policy” affects large numbers of people on our island.

If a hurricane forms in the eastern Pacific, moves into the central Pacific, should we wait to discuss the forecast until it’s actually about Hawaii?  When we already know hurricanes in that path have caused massive destruction to the islands in the past?  When Iniki turned hard right into Kauai do we describe it in political terms, in dismissive language?  Or recognize our island neighbors are hurting, people are harmed and need help?
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#76
Don't mind Edge, kalianna  - he's just taking a 30,000 ft view in making his Hawaii connections ("When Iniki turned hard right" - lol ;)

Star-Advertiser has an update on ICE activities in Hawaii (or does it? can it ever?)

Number of ICE Arrests in Hawaii Remains Unknown
"...Since the beginning of President Donald Trump’s second term, more than 236,000 immigrants have been arrested nationwide and over 207,000 deported as of Friday, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The Honolulu Star-Advertiser has repeatedly asked ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations for the number of arrests of alleged illegal immigrants in Hawaii so far this year and for each of the previous five years.

ICE officials have refused to make the data public or provide an explanation for withholding the information.

Homeland Security Investigations Honolulu has said that more than 100 people  have been arrested for alleged violations of immigration law in Hawaii so far this year. Information on exactly how many over 100, where they were arrested and for what reason has not been made public.
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In the current fiscal year, 561 immigration arrests by Dec. 31 have occurred in ICE’s San Francisco Area of Responsibility, which includes the state of Hawaii. Statistics for Hawaii were not immediately available Wednesday.

Of those arrested during that time, 517 were removed from the country.
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In response to a Thursday request for immigration arrests statistics for Hawaii, ICE officials shared the nationwide numbers since the start of Trump’s second term and a May 14 news release.

The release was sent in response to a NYT story about ICE agents targeting coffee farmers in Kona. The statement noted that the story “falsely painted a narrative that Immigration and Customs Enforcement targeted illegal alien coffee workers in Hawaii.”

“The truth is ICE targeted criminal illegal aliens and conducted unaccompanied minor welfare checks to ensure children are not being abused, trafficked or otherwise exploited,” said McLaughlin on May 14. “Why does the New York Times continue to peddle false sob stories of criminal illegal aliens but ignore their victims? Completely leaving out the facts and rap sheets of criminals arrested shows the New York Times’s complete bias. This story was nothing but an attempt to mislead the public.”

Immigration enforcement has led to some high-profile arrests in Hawaii:

>> On Thursday, ICE agents arrested a Russian woman at Marine Corps Base Hawaii in Kaneohe. Federal officials say she is in the United States illegally. Anastasiia Vorobeva “entered the United States at the San Ysidro port of entry in San Diego, Calif., July 18, 2023,” read a caption beneath a post of a picture of Vorobeva posted on ICE’s social media platforms Sunday. She was arrested Thursday, according to the post.

How Vorobeva got on the base, what she was doing there, and what federal law she is accused of violating were not made public by ICE officials.

An online search of the federal court records did not reveal a record of her arrest or court proceedings.

“The information available in the initial post is what we have available. No further information will be forthcoming on this individual,” an ICE spokesperson said in a statement to the Honolulu Star-Advertiser.

>> On June 2, an immigrant allegedly living in the country illegally and wanted on a federal arrest warrant refused get out of his car  in Kapolei.

ICE agents who boxed him in with a sport utility vehicle broke a window to arrest the man, Ricardo Ramirez Almaguer, who allegedly entered and remained in the United States illegally.

Almaguer was arrested in Waianae on Sept. 19, 2023, and charged with drunk driving, driving without a license, and having an open container of alcohol in his vehicle, according to state court records. Through a Spanish interpreter, he eventually pleaded no contest to the impaired driving charge. The other charges were dismissed with prejudice."
(excerpted the Hawaii-related details, more at link, but paywall)
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#77
Don't mind Edge, kalianna - he's just taking a 30,000 ft view

Admittedly the air can get thin, and oxygen levels low but I find the view fantastic.  Worth the trade off for the writer if not every reader.


“Why does the New York Times continue to peddle false sob stories of criminal illegal aliens 

Yes, why is the NYT writing sob stories about hard working businessmen who spent years getting their coffee trees to produce a crop, and pickers who work through blazing sun and soaking rain when the harvest is ready, and for good measure carry 100 pound bags around on their backs? 

As a former full time farmer many years ago, I would answer that when a farmer or field worker is up from dawn ‘till dusk (a reality for me in those days, not just an old timey saying) there are not enough hours in the day for murdering, human trafficking, drug dealing, etc.  Oh sure, maybe a few tireless and diligent individuals might plow their way through a third shift jacked up on stimulants and conduct those illegal activities at night, but I would guess most did as I did and slept.  The sun rises early on summer mornings.
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#78
Thanks for the numbers, Ironyak. Everything is Hawaii-related to someone who posts obituaries about celebrities because they once visited the islands or had a vacation house here thirty years ago.
Certainty will be the death of us.
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#79
   
“I could say the stupidest things and you’d clap” 
-DJT
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#80
I checked and yes, there are farm workers on Big Island.
It’s Friday and there’s a new farm worker policy, different from yesterday.

What they're saying "We're looking at doing something where in the case of good, reputable farmers, they can take responsibility for the people that they hire, and let them have responsibility, because we can't put the farms out of business, and at the same time, we don't want to hurt people that aren't criminals," Trump told reporters after arriving at a New Jersey airport.

"I never want to hurt our farmers. Our farmers are great people. They keep us happy and healthy and fat."

Speak for yourself.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/20/trump-i...aids-farms
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