Most expensive groceries in the country...

[randomq]

If it seems like everything is always getting more expensive around here, that's because it is!

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https://www.visualcapitalist.com/each-st...cery-bill/

[kalakoa]

You really have to consider the entire TCO. I have "cheap" groceries (gas, utilities) but my property taxes are "high".

[loffelkopffl]

I was in Oregon visiting a few months ago and went into a large grocery store outside of Astoria. Besides milk, bread and fresh veggies everything else was about the same as you can find here in Hilo.

[leilanidude]

Not surprising since the large amounts of S.N.A.P. fuels it. Free money tends to do that.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

large amounts of S.N.A.P. fuels it. Free money tends to do that.

Here’s a chart of states and SNAP. Oh look! It doesn’t match up or overlay with the food cost chart at all.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-...od-stamps/

[HiloJulie]

Not surprising since the large amounts of S.N.A.P. fuels it. Free money tends to do that.

Once again, let the facts be damned hey?

As for the facts, using the same source as the OP used, we have this:



https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-...od-stamps/

Hawaii ranks number 25 on the list of states most dependent on SNAP while Number 1 on the cost of groceries.

And the top 5 states dependent on SNAP as it relates to the cost of groceries is:

New Mexico ranks number 1 of the states dependent on SNAP, and ranks number 35 on the list of grocery costs.

Oregon ranks number 2 of the states dependent on SNAP, and ranks number 7 on the list of grocery costs.

Louisiana ranks number 3 of the states dependent on SNAP, and ranks number 42 on the list of grocery costs.

Oklahoma ranks number 4 of the states dependent on SNAP, and ranks number 48 on the list of grocery costs.

West Virginia ranks number 5 of the states dependent on SNAP, and ranks number 41 on the list of grocery costs.

So yeah, the facts do not in any way back up your assertion. Again.

ETA: Sorry HOTPE, did not mean to duplicate your post!

[MyManao]

Not surprising since the large amounts of S.N.A.P. fuels it. Free money tends to do that.

That is the most absurd comment, Dude you should be ashamed of yourself. But MAGA ain't known for shame, nor intelligence..

People have to eat. That food, or similar, would be bought no matter. The food costs have zero to do with snap. And, besides, snap is corporate welfare. Money for rich people. They too, the economy which is tanking because of the orangutang in the wh, would freak out if snap didn't come their way. Seriously that's their profit margin brah.

But hey, any opportunity to dis the less fortunate of your neighbors and here you are.

And again.. it's another beautiful dawn in Paradise..

Edited, after enjoying another beautiful morning, to add:

Info, as Edge says, is easy nowadays.. and a search of the national budget for snap suggests the feds spend 1.5% of the national budget on the stuff, and it comes out to just north of 100 billion bucks annually. Another search says that manufacturers in the food industry make about 35% of retail back in profits. So, for folks like our esteemed Mr Dude who might be a little dense with numbers, that means that the corporate welfare I cite above amounts to about 35 billion bucks annually that the rich get from our nation's efforts to help the needy.

Think of that Dude, 35 billion bucks.. which goes a long way to payouts to shareholders. Profit man.

Now I don't begrudge our welfare system. In fact I think of it as a symbol of our humanity. But for those that do, all I can say is if the feds made the corporate side of this cough up that food without getting the profits you'd have something to bitch about. But as long as the fat cats are making their's I'd suggest you try humility, and shut up already. 'Cause bitching about me and mine helping them that need it is really unbecoming of you. It looks cheap brah.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

did not mean to duplicate your post!

No problem!  It confirms how easy it is to find out whether a politically held belief is valid or not.  How easy it would be for people to check whether their preferred media is telling the truth or not.  How people are unwilling to invest a few seconds in finding out what is true.  Or how some people are willing to intentionally transmit false information?  Not making an accusation, because knowing intent is more difficult than finding accurate statistics.

[randomq]

As they say, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. It depends how the cost of groceries are calculated (which items), and not just the population on food stamps, but how much each person receives, etc. I'm actually shocked there isn't a strong correlation, given how expensive certain staples are here. I guess it's good to keep an open mind!

I don't think us all becoming subsistence or minimum wage farmers is going to fix anything, but it will be interesting when AI and robots can start doing all the farm work. Maybe there is a future where sunshine powered androids grow wheat and make bread for everyone in Hawaii? Where solar panels and crops and food forests are tended to on every square inch of otherwise unused government land? A[n is]land of plenty?

[kalakoa]

sunshine powered androids grow wheat and make bread for everyone

That only works if the means of production are held in common trust by the populace. Which is to say, communism or socialism, structures we've all been taught to believe are "bad" even when they are commonly practiced and make the most sense for some things (roads, bridges, water).