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How We Lost Our New [Big Island] Home To Trump's Illegal Tariffs
#81
(03-09-2026, 02:37 AM)Punatang Wrote: That is very interesting Kane but in Will Bailey's defense, from a human perspective, if Lady Tang was ripping me a new one because I just lost twenty thousand dollars, on a deal she would have been HIGHLY (sorry for yelling) skeptical of,  I might just blame Trump too. It's human nature.

Yeah, spot on.

Google “Section 301 tariffs China prefab container home” = apparently harder than wiring $20k to a WeChat stranger for a house you’ve never seen.

But crank out a teary “Trump stole our dream home mid-ocean” sob story laced with “illegal tariffs” and Supreme Court bait?

Suddenly it’s printable gold for some low-rent Big Island rag, and the TDS crowd laps it up like free poke—zero fact-checks, all feelings, instant villain arc unlocked.

Seeing as how the author could pen a whole article blaming Trump but somehow couldn’t manage a 10-second Google on tariffs that’ve been public since 2018? Sounds way more like a fraudulent hit piece engineered for TDS confirmation bias than genuine victim journalism.

Priorities: easy money transfers, easier outrage farming. Research? That’s for suckers.
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#82
The story teller indicates a shipping container home thus pointing towards a steel container and therefore subject

The entire premise of your calculations are based on an “indication” “pointing towards.” You argue Will didn’t investigate the details of his purchase yet you have no problem rambling on for paragraphs starting out with no details whatsoever, charging ahead to a conclusion based on an assumption.

Then we have another poster claim Will wrote the article so as not to anger his wife. Source? Based on what?
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#83
HereOnThePrimalEdge - I considered that, especially with two misspellings (to make sure the libs didn’t Evelyn Woods thier way right on through the first one).

Well, when Kane's claims "My point is in the fact that the story teller attempts to portray or ellude [sic] that Trump slapped surprise tariff on their prefabbed home while in transit. No such thing occurred. The established duties existed years before the thier [sic] purchase and haven't changed since 2019. " you have to think, no one can be this deluded right? It has to be a shtick given the number of stories about people dealing with exactly this problem of the changes to the EXTRA AND ABOVE tariffs, based on Country of Origin and materials like Steel and Aluminum, drastically changing before people's already-ordered items actually arrive because (maybe if I yell it can penetrate the reality distortion field):
TARIFFS ARE ASSESSED WHEN THE ITEM CLEARS CUSTOMS AT THE DESTINATION PORT - NOT AT THE TIME OR LOCATION OF PURCHASE OR SHIPPING.

https://www.bookweb.org/news/overview-20...fs-1631822
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/13/trump-ta...-fees.html
https://archive.is/lE4vS (Wondering about the link is like wondering about the future, until you've tried it what do you really know? And then, of course, it's too late ;)

I'd just say that most any source could confirm this, or any of several other easy counterpoints and clarifications I could offer, but Kane can't hear me anyways so what's the point of "assuming the best and asking questions"? Given all the bespoke AI sources now a days there's probably more than one that would tell Kane anything they want to hear and so who you going to trust, some libtard on the web with sources and citations, or your sycophantic cyber fluffer who is always there for you to serve your needs?

But I thought I’d enjoy myself anyway while kane may or may not chortle his way through the cocktail hour owning at least one lib, with a low down payment, and deferred monthly installments.  And it only gets funnier as the night trails on and the bottle drains down.

Agreed - fun to spot bait, often fun to take it as well. How else can you find out what the "grand master" strategy that's being vaguely hinted at without sacrificing a few pawns. As for what Kane's follow up plan is, it appears to be doing a circle jerk while we watch and comment? This is Puna and love is love - who am I to judge?
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#84
Looks like this topic got jacked.
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#85
Touché? Double entendres for days...
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#86
"It took nearly eight months to build..."
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A prefab container home, made in China?
This is the unbelievable part.
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#87
Ka puana a ka moe!  A clear pattern has been revealed on Punaweb, Kane.  When folks are overwhelmed by facts, and they have run out of pono things to say, they attack your grammar and begin discussing their social lives. Every time. Hamajang moves, but it is what it is. Way to ignore their baitin'. It's best to just look the other way and pretend you didn't see the deed. Ha'ina'ia mai ana ka puana.

   
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#88
Leilanidude—among the rare few still exempt from my ignore list—shows a solid grasp of the issue. There may actually be hope for reasoned discussion on Punaweb after all.

As for Punatang, the only baiting I'm aware of in this thread comes from the original post's framing and my deliberate responses to it—designed precisely to draw out reactions from those with a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. And they bit, predictably. Seeing those blocked names surface is like watching a gagged fool try to speak: all muffled noise, zero substance.
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#89
(03-09-2026, 02:09 AM)Wao nahele kane Wrote: This deception is evident in how Bailey frames the story to imply Trump personally placed a "new" tariff on his specific "house" while it was en route across the Pacific. He describes the duty taking effect "mid-voyage" after the prefab container home was already built and shipped, using language like "policy shifts mid-voyage" and "rules changing after the fact" to evoke a sense of unfair retroactivity. This leads readers to envision a capricious presidential edict targeting his shipment in real-time, when in reality, tariffs apply at the time of customs entry upon arrival—not departure or order date—and such timing risks are standard for importers who don't plan accordingly....

I can't remember the date his house arrived, or if it was even given in the story.  


..."The major trend we see is shippers looking to not accept their freight,” said Joseph Esteves, CEO of Maine Pointe, a global supply chain consultant. “A lot of these companies are levered financially. They don’t have the working capital requirements and they don’t have the cash. So they simply cannot just take on this and hope to see what happens. They don’t have the liquidity to do that,” he said. Balance sheets and cash levels were more sensitive to major changes in costs, as consumer demand slowed, “before all this nonsense,” he said. “Every CEO we’re talking to seems to just be waiting. They’re just not accepting at this moment.”
Right now, many companies are telling their manufacturing facilities to delay shipment and not have freight loaded onto a vessel. If the goods arrive to port and they can’t pay the import tariffs, the goods sit at port and the company is billed with costly detention charges...
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...For now, any freight on the water will not face the new tariffs. In updated guidance on the China tariffs released by U.S. Customs on Tuesday, an “on the water clause” explained the cargo coming into the ports today or in the coming weeks will not be subject to the tariffs, which won’t be tacked on to any goods arriving until May 27..."

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/09/trump-ta...rders.html
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#90
Durian Fiend, given the information you shared in your most recent post, is it your assertion that Will Bailey's article was written with a reckless disregard for the truth, or actual malice, or both?

Did he ever respond to your email?

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