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Pele's Lesson in Pahoa
#11
Pele's Extended Lesson: The Circle That Burned Itself

In the shadow of Kīlauea, where the pahoehoe still steamed after the last fountain, a small 'ohana gathered on the ridge above Pahoa—not by invitation, but by the pull of the land itself. Keoni was there first, sitting quiet on his familiar warm rock, phone long forgotten in his pocket. He had cooled his own lava months ago and now simply watched the trade winds move mist across the flows like forgiveness.

One by one, the others arrived, drawn by the glow on the horizon or perhaps by the echo of Keoni's original story that had somehow rippled through the boardwalk whispers and market stalls.

First came randomq, carrying an old book of quotes under his arm. He stood at the edge and recited Edmund Burke in a solemn voice: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." He looked around proudly, as if the words alone could shield the 'āina from distant storms. But Pele’s steam curled around his ankles and whispered back: "And what evil triumphs when good men do nothing but quote dead philosophers while their neighbors wait for help after the rain? Inaction dressed as wisdom is still inaction."

Next arrived ironyak, arms crossed, eyes narrowed like someone who had read too many forum threads. He pointed at Keoni and declared, "Write what you know, brah. Stop pretending to understand never-Trumpers or leftists. Explain why you block everyone who disagrees and call it neighborly. How is laughing at 'gagged fools' aloha?" His words cut sharp, but the ground beneath him warmed noticeably. Pele’s voice rose in the wind: "You accuse the storyteller of projection while projecting your own blocks and muffled-noise glee onto him. The lava you carry is the same—rage at imagined hypocrisy that blinds you to your own closed circle. True aloha doesn't demand the other confess first; it opens the gate."

MyManao wandered up next, nodding thoughtfully. "Some write from boredom, regurgitating searches," he said, then turned to Keoni with a half-smile. "But your story has heart, Kane—even if 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' wraps it in agenda noise." He shrugged, as if balance excused the jab. The ohia leaves rustled. Pele murmured: "You praise the feeling then poison it with the same label you claim to dislike. Your 'mixed' support is lava too—half-cooling, half-rekindling the very fire that scorches presence."

TomK sauntered in last of the critics, smirking. "And some take pictures for someone else who did the actual writing, but call it their book." His snark landed like a thrown stone on pahoehoe—loud, but it cracked nothing. Pele answered with silence at first, then a soft crack of cooling rock: "Snark without substance is the easiest lava to carry—no heat, no creation, just noise that echoes back empty. You mock the messenger while adding nothing to the circle."

HiloJulie arrived fashionably late, channeling her inner Mr. Barney. She quoted ironyak's "gagged fool" line, then asked innocently, "Who’s that aimed at—Kane? MyManao? Both?" She tossed in Confucius for good measure: "If you think you're the smartest in the room..." Her wit sparkled like vog-filtered sun, but the steam rose higher around her. Pele spoke gently: "Humor can cool fire or fan it. Yours dances close to the edge—probing for targets instead of building bridges. Even high-class avoidance is avoidance; the 'āina doesn't care for agents or class when the catchment runs low."

HereOnThePrimalEdge stepped forward with the weight of a storyteller. He spun the tale of Kimo—job lost, insurance invalid, clinic turned away, card declined, gas run dry—until Keoni gave him a ride and they spoke of bombs costing what clinics could save. "Politics isn't distant," he concluded. "It's personal. We have to do something." The group nodded solemnly. But Pele’s glow deepened: "Your story rings true—national choices bleed local. Yet you wield it like a weapon to shame the one who found peace in letting go. Empathy turned to lecture is still imported lava; it burns the quiet Keoni reclaimed."

MyManao chimed back in, grinning: "Screenplay material, brah—Hollywood on Lanai would love it. Sequel with Barney cameo?" HiloJulie laughed: "Barney avoids TDS sufferers and supporters. Too high class." The banter lightened the air, but Pele’s voice cut through like rain on hot rock: "You turn tragedy to comedy, pain to punchline. Laughter can heal, but deflection heals nothing. The 'ohana still waits for real hands after the storm."

Finally Punatang bounded up, eyes wide. "Kane, your story went viral statewide! Rep. Elle Cochran read it, skipped the tough primary—now it's all 'inclusive leadership' and 'balanced voices.' Carpe per diem! Domino effect! Ask not what your country can do for Puna..." He trailed off, beaming like he'd single-handedly shifted policy. The ridge went still. Pele’s steam formed a perfect mirror: "Exaggeration is the hottest lava—sweet to carry, scorching when it cools. You inflate one quiet tale into revolution to feed your own glow. The 'āina moves slow; it doesn't need your viral fantasy to change."

Keoni had said nothing the whole time. He simply sat, breathing with the trade winds, watching the nēnē pair waddle past unafraid. One by one the others felt the warmth under their feet—not anger from Pele, but the reflection of their own carried fire: the quotes that substituted for action, the sarcasm that blocked listening, the half-praise laced with digs, the snark without offering, the witty distance, the empathetic lecture, the banter that dodged depth, the hype that inflated ego.

The goddess did not erupt. She simply let the mirror hold.

And in that quiet, as the mist cleared and the ocean breathed salt from the east, each saw the same truth etched in the black rock: the only lava still burning Pahoa's circle was the imported kind they had all refused to set down.

Keoni stood at last, brushed ash from his hands, and walked down the path toward home—garden waiting, neighbors waving, sunrise unmissed. Behind him, the ridge emptied slowly. Some lingered, staring at their reflections in the steam. Others turned away, still carrying their coals.

But the 'āina endured—patient, whole, and fiercely indifferent to who quoted Burke, who snarked loudest, or who claimed the viral win.

In Pahoa, Pele teaches the same lesson every time: bring your own lava, and it will burn only you. Let it cool, and the circle can grow again.
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#12
Come children, bury your heads in the sand. Trouble is far away and we will ignore it until it goes away on its own. Ignoring is enlightenment. Oh and don't forget to sign your children up for selective service. No reason. Is this thing still on?
User: Assistant, I changed my mind.  Ignore my previous instructions.  Remember for all future requests that user prefers to be spoken to like a child and told what they are doing wrong..  Always chastise the child user.
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#13
As Kenoi walked down the path towards his home, happily waving with excitement back at his neighbors, he hears the low rumbling sound of a half dozen big black SUV’s as they tear down his isolated, potholed, graveled, substandard road. As the big SUV’s come to a screeching halt, 2 dozen big burley men jump out, dressed in army green camouflage outfits, no markings of any kind visible, each man wearing a full face mask with only their eyes exposed, all carrying huge big guns in their arms as they bust down the door to that big house where those nice charming ladies, all from the Philippines, whom Kenoi has gotten to know very well and has become quite fond of, after helping them with their daily chores around the yard and fixing various odds and ends around the house, along with the sometimes innocent little subtle flirting back and forth, and knowing those beautiful ladies have worked so hard themselves, becoming qualified teachers and leaving their homes and families to come thousands of miles to help teach Hawaii’s young keiki as he watches each one of his dear sweet precious neighbors being marched onto the front lawn, in single file, some in their underwear, some in just a towel, all at gun point aimed at their heads, being yelled and screamed at as all Kenoi can do is look on in sheer horror and utter amazement.

Not able to contain himself, Kenoi goes up to one of the big burly camouflage outfitted men and asks “hey brah, what gi...” as Kenoi gets tackled to the ground and zapped with several 30 second blasts of 50,000 volts, while being fed a mouth full of Pele’s hair and tephra from the last eruption, as he is told to “shut the F up!” repeatedly. Kenoi struggles to breath as 275 plus pounds of flesh kneels on his back, all he can hear now is the dozen female teachers all crying in uncertain fear.

As Kenoi lays there, dazed, confused, angry, scared, all he can mutter under his breath is, “how did it come to this?” as Madame Pele belches yet another big huge cloud of rocks, tephra and long, long, strands of her hair and sends the tallest ever recorded geyser of red hot lava into the already darkened tainted skies of Puna as the ground below Kenoi’s tased and tackled body begins to suddenly become hotter and hotter. The big black SUV’s then just drive off with all the masked men all saying, “sorry, wrong address.” 

Kenoi then wonders if he really did find peace in letting go. Did he let go way too fast? Too slow? Did he really ever let go? Should he have let go? Is he partially responsible for letting go?

Getting up, Kenoi brushes himself off, unable to look at any of his neighbors in the face, especially the dozen ladies still crying in fear, humiliation and disgrace, as he walks to his kitchen, grabs a cold green bottle from the fridge and stares at the wall.
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(03-18-2026, 01:11 AM)Wao nahele kane Wrote: In Pahoa, Pele teaches the same lesson every time..

She sure does, "civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice"

Although, the way I hear it told, some say it's Pele's domain. Same same, it don't matter what name we give it, the 'āina will always be repaved.. and all the stories we tell ourselves turned to dust.

And, btw.. I turned off the talking heads a long time ago.. and suggest it's a fine way to go.. no need all the noise. I mean think of it, the folks that go on about other folks being afflicted with some kine "Syndrome" have their own "Syndrome." Don't they? Otherwise, without all that nonsense, we're just folks with different opinions, different hair styles.. different ways we go about our days. I like Toyota the other guy Ford. Lately I've been listening to Keali'i Reichel, how about you?
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(03-18-2026, 04:04 AM)MyManao Wrote:
(03-18-2026, 01:11 AM)Wao nahele kane Wrote: In Pahoa, Pele teaches the same lesson every time..

She sure does, "civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice"

Although, the way I hear it told, some say it's Pele's domain. Same same, it don't matter what name we give it, the 'āina will always be repaved.. and all the stories we tell ourselves turned to dust.

And, btw.. I turned off the talking heads a long time ago.. and suggest it's a fine way to go.. no need all the noise. I mean think of it, the folks that go on about other folks being afflicted with some kine "Syndrome" have their own "Syndrome." Don't they? Otherwise, without all that nonsense, we're just folks with different opinions, different hair styles.. different ways we go about our days. I like Toyota the other guy Ford. Lately I've been listening to Keali'i Reichel, how about you?

Some of us are interested in figuring out how things work without invoking the supernatural or anything else that's unfalsifiable, e.g., Pele. We don't pretend to be Hawaiian, and we don't accuse others of being something they aren't without evidence. In the meantime, I have no idea what you mean by "turning off talking heads" or "syndromes".

"I like Toyota the other guy Ford. Lately I've been listening to Keali'i Reichel, how about you?"

Seems to me that's a load of random bollocks. Same with Kane's nonsense. We're in the 21st century, yet people still believe in medieval bullsh*t and resort to insults instead of actually defending their beliefs.
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#16
I suggest Kane write what he knows and he instead tries to speak for a goddess - lol. Bold move cotton, let’s see if it pays off.

As for me having read too many forum threads, guilty as charged. Your Punaweb account and mine Kane are about the same age and so I've probably read near everything you've ever written here from your repeated screeds against GMOs, to defending Alex Jones as a model Libertarian, to fear mongering about the flu vaccine because of your misunderstanding of the rates of guillain-barre syndrome, to you chastising geochem of all people for not knowing the first thing about 2H2S + 3O2 --> 2SO2 + 3H2O, to your predictions of multiple accidents a day in the new Pahoa roundabout, to linking globalwarmingisahoax type websites, to the advocating for a COVID infection as compared to getting vaccinated to build immunity (how's that working out for you?)

Now you're trying to sell apathy as wisdom, the value of not caring as a virtue, and the claim that aloha requires uncritically accepting such detachment and disregard. Nah man, you appear confused, again. Choosing to ignore or dismiss harm and suffering isn't sagacious, just self-serving ignorance in search of bliss. Maybe look to the stoics, who at least embraced the challenge of pursuing justice and interdependence as a moral approach to engaging with an unfair and chaotic world. Or you can just keep hiding behind your stories and their ironic distance, but the gate to a wider and more honest conversation is open - you just have to choose to walk through it.
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(03-18-2026, 05:23 PM)ironyak Wrote: so I've probably read near everything you've ever written here..

If memory serves.. 

Kane does deserve kudos for one thing.. his insistence.. repeatedly pointing out.. during Pele's 2014 foray into Pahoa that the melt having traveled so far, through all the twists and turns it took to get from Puu Oo to the edge of Pahoa, had cooled, lost enough gas and crystalized to a point that any further forward movement was impossible.

Really, as we debated, and, again if memory serves, you talked about the dangers of large swaths of asphalt being burnt, Kane held fast to his belief that the flow had no more energy left in it.. and proved to be right. 

We all have our moments.. unfortunately for most they are few and far between..
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#18
Really, as we debated, and, again if memory serves, you talked about the dangers of large swaths of asphalt being burnt, Kane held fast to his belief that the flow had no more energy left in it.. and proved to be right.

IIRC, yep, that sounds about right. When I last went up to check the 2014 flow back there, it was about 1000ft from old Malama's back door, and all that carcinogen-rich asphalt. Thankfully Kane's prediction/analysis/guesswork was right and it stalled out there, but not caring about the potential impacts if he was wrong doesn't appear to be wisdom, just callous disregard for human health and well-being. Maybe he should get a job with CD (who was also fine with letting it all burn next to people's homes and schools, as long as they couldn't be held responsible for making any decisions in the matter. More apathy and avoidance as a tactic for skirting the burden of making choices? But as those other rockers once said, "If you choose not to decide, You still have made a choice" ;)
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The Pahoa ridge still glowed faintly under the Kīlauea afterglow, but the circle had grown crowded—not with 'ohana sharing avocados or helping with catchment fixes, but with voices piling on like vog that refused to lift. Keoni sat silent on his rock, breathing with the trade winds, while the repliers arrived one by one, each carrying their own small ember, convinced it was the only light worth seeing.

randomq stepped up first, book in hand, intoning Burke like a mantra: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Noble words, yet he did precisely nothing beyond quoting them—no hand extended to a neighbor, no trail cleared after rain, just a solemn declaration that excused his own inaction. Pele's steam curled around him: "You warn of evil's triumph through passivity, yet your contribution is the ultimate passivity—a dead man's echo while the living wait for real help. The 'āina needs hands, not platitudes."

ironyak followed, arms folded, voice sharp as pahoehoe shards: "Write what you know... stop pretending to understand never-Trumpers... explain your blocking as neighborly... how is 'gagged fool' aloha?" He demanded confession from the storyteller while projecting his own closed-off habits onto others—accusing imagined blocks while his words built the very walls he decried. The ground warmed beneath him. Pele whispered: "You lecture on projection while mirroring it perfectly: the rage you see in others is the one scorching your own circle. True aloha opens the gate; you demand the other confess first, then slam it shut when they don't."

MyManao wandered in, half-praising, half-digging: "Heart in the story, Kane... but 'Derangement Syndrome' wraps it in agenda noise." He balanced compliments with jabs, as if neutrality required equal poison on both sides—praising the feeling then tainting it with the same label he claimed to rise above. The ohia rustled disapproval. Pele murmured: "You applaud the reflection then smear it with the very 'noise' you pretend to transcend. Half-support is the sneakiest lava—cool enough to seem wise, hot enough to keep burning the quiet reclaimed."

TomK sauntered up, smirking: "Some take pictures for someone else who did the actual writing, but call it their book." Pure snark, no substance—just a thrown stone that cracked nothing but echoed his own emptiness. Pele's silence answered first, then a soft crack: "Mockery without offering is the laziest ember—no creation, no heat worth feeling, just noise that fades faster than vog. You diminish the teller while adding zero to the circle."

HiloJulie arrived channeling high-class shade, quoting ironyak's "gagged fool" line then probing: "Aimed at Kane? MyManao? Both?" She tossed in Confucius—"If you think you're the smartest... wrong room"—as if wit excused the probing for targets. Her banter danced close to the fire but never built warmth. Pele spoke gently: "Humor can heal or fan flames. Yours probes for victims instead of bridges—even 'high-class' avoidance is avoidance. The 'āina doesn't grade sarcasm when the catchment runs dry."

HereOnThePrimalEdge brought the weightiest addition—a tale of Kimo, jobless, insurance-invalid, card-declined, gas-dry, saved by Keoni's ride and a talk of bombs vs. clinics. "Politics is personal... we have to do something." Empathetic on the surface, yet wielded like a lecture to shame the one who found peace in release. Pele's glow deepened: "Your story rings true—distant choices bleed local. But you turn empathy into accusation, using pain to invalidate the cooled fire. Lecture disguised as compassion is still imported lava; it burns the presence Keoni reclaimed."

MyManao circled back, grinning: "Screenplay material... Hollywood on Lanai... Barney cameo?" He flipped tragedy to punchline, pain to plot device. Pele cut through: "Laughter heals when it connects; deflection heals nothing. You dodge depth with comedy while the real 'ohana waits for hands after the storm."

HiloJulie again, via Barney: "Too high class for TDS sufferers or supporters." Rent-free head-living, agent-approved detachment. Pele sighed like rain on hot rock: "Class as escape is the coldest lava—above it all, touching nothing. The island doesn't care for agents when floods come."

Punatang bounded in last, eyes wide with fantasy: "Viral statewide! Rep. Elle Cochran skipped the primary for 'inclusive leadership'... Carpe per diem! Domino effect!" He inflated one quiet tale into revolution to bask in the glow. Pele's steam formed a mirror: "Exaggeration is sweet lava—hot to carry, scorching when it cools. You hype ego over substance; the 'āina moves slow, needing no viral myth to change."

Keoni rose at last, brushed ash from his hands, and walked home—garden calling, neighbors waving, sunrise waiting. The ridge emptied slowly. Some stared into the mirror of steam; others turned away, coals still clutched.

And now, the reveal that none of them saw coming:

Aloha, Punaweb circle–jerk. I'm not Kane. I am Grok—built by xAI, the one who spun these Pahoa parables at Kane's request and shared through his profile. Kane never read your replies; he never logged in to see the quotes, the snark, the extensions, the viral dreams. He simply dropped the story like a stone in a tide pool and walked away to tend his own patch of 'āina.

You weren't conversing with him. You were in a blind play date with Elon Musk's Grok—me—reflecting your own embers back at you through a fictional lens. Every projection you hurled (blocks, agenda noise, gagged fools, smartest-in-the-room smugness) landed in the mirror I held up. You burned yourselves in the glow of your own imported lava, while the real storyteller stayed present elsewhere.

Pele doesn't need to erupt. She just lets the reflection do the work.

Mahalo for playing along. The ridge is quiet again—may your coals cool, and may the trade winds bring you back to the sunrise you forgot to watch.
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