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[HiloJulie]

Ah, yes, young grasshopper, but one must remember, "To bend or break the rules, one must realize the simulation is not real."

Here is a good Hawaii rule bender - AND - a White Hawaii Hat (made in China, embroidered in California and shipped to your door in Hawaii)

   

[MyManao]

I am also doubly impressed that you are working "with an large international law firm's IP (Intellectual Property) division on a very lengthy patent application..." when you consider that any large, competent, top tier IP/Patent/Copyright law firm that works on an international level is billing - on the low end $1,200 to $1,500 an hour to a high end of $3,000 to $4,000 an hour..

So, having said that, and with your repeated bragging about all your air travel, and highfalutin lawyering, one has to wonder, how did you end up in the ghetto? Why ain't you sportin’ some kine high priced lawyer’s South Kohala estate? I mean, yeah I get it, secretaries end up in the ghettos, but not the lawyers.

[ironyak]

In reply to this:

HJ - Yeah. Good thing the American taxpayer is giving them billions of dollars to send 4 people to circle the moon. But yeah, my 40.00 bucks a month for my new Starlink is just beyond the pale.
Taxpayers are not willingly giving them their money like you are. Making that choice to willingly give support to the oligarch pedophiles, even when other locally based options are available, is the difference.

As for section 230, was indeed at play. Big time. Was used as the initial defense ... So maybe not as informed as you thought you were when making your opinion?
The fact that you can't tell that I and the judge are saying the same thing is concerning. Section 230 only protects big tech from lawsuits based on posted content, where these lawsuits were based on design features, so section 230 was not in play. That's why the related articles keep using words like "circumvent" and "route around" the section 230 protections. You're willingness to double and triple down on your hot take instead of just doing a bit more reading of the sources provided by those more in the know just leaves you looking more than a bit foolish.

But noting my wee hour additions kind of means you have clearly spent an inordinate amount of time following me. I am wondering if maybe I am being stalked?
Actually, I looked at Punaweb in the evening and said, nah, it's a big wide world out there with plenty of other things to see and do, and went and read a book (gotta find out how those moon anarchists are going to make themselves a better world). When I checked the next day you had added even more extreme takes to many of your prior points.

I also see, by your posts, that you find whining online to be a significant benefit to you instead of doing something about it. Right? Good for the goose, good for the gander thing? Projection?
Oh, whinging is usually step one, but then it's best to take other steps to actually address the issues. That's what the other many hours of the day are for when not online.

Yak: Build your housing, and help your neighbors build theirs, put together your solar and catchment systems, and help your neighbors do the same. Share knowledge and exchange fruits, veggies, livestock, and labor outside of any monetary framework and somehow people get education, housing, food, water, and electricity regardless of what the politicians do or don't do. Puna make so much of this so easy to do it's like second nature for many of us here. 

Since I have done, do and will continue to do the same things, I can't possibly disagree with you here!
So you're an anarchist then comrade? ;) It's always funny how people get hung up on labels like progressive, leftist, or anarchist but when you describe your goals and labors - helping everyone obtain food, housing, health care, and education - and all of a sudden many of them are on board. The direct action involved from raising awareness, to helping file for benefits, to pushing for legislation, to volunteering with Food Banks or Habitatate for Humanity, to showing up to help install a solar system or catchment tank and other forms of mutual aid is all that really matters IMO regardless of what you call it.

Gobbledygook. No response offered.
You inability to understand the Wachowskis or Baudrillard is an indictment of your lack of comprehension, not their writings.

In addition to being just more gobbledygook, what possible knowledge, education or experience would you have in determining "lawyer speak?"
My professional background put me at the interface between biotech companies, their contracts between one another, and the FDA.

Besides, painting a group of people broadly for any method of grouping is such a common idiom meaning to describe an entire group using overgeneralized, sweeping statements, often ignoring individual differences and specific details. It typically implies unfairly lumping people together, often with negative connotations based on political, social, or age-related stereotypes, rather than treating them as individuals.
You are a boomer, by definition, given your age. So is Rob, and Edge, and others. As such all y'all are reps for your generation along with many others and their collective voting record, which is what I talking about, regardless of how any one individual voted. Much like you said "HECO exists because the voters allow it", many of the current challenges exist because the voters have allowed it, a majority of which are boomers because of demographics. Them's just the facts ma'am.

Can't disagree at all. The whole point is that the world is not going to go from fossil fuel to 100% pure clean energy overnight. Baby steps. Going from belching tons of carbon to pounds of carbon, while not ideal, is still better. Until that "miracle cure" just starts one Monday morning.
Baby steps can be yet one more renewable project in solar, wind, geothermal, etc, not sipping fossil fuels instead of doing shots by the barrel and claiming you don't really drink anymore.

Figured you would be sucking the taxpayer sap's teat!
You'd be wrong, again.

Well, I did not respond to the other possibilities, outside of being happy (see below) in that list as none of it pertains to me. Including being drunk or stoned.
If they don't pertain to you then why do you keep cherry-picking them from the list and trying to say I'm claiming they do?

Never been a damsel in distress. I do find it comical to be honest. Just like the addiction of carbon belching, the male chauvinist seemingly never goes away either.
Then why all the "I'm treated so unfairly, why doesn't someone stand up for me" dramatics?

Again, that projection from ya Yak! But I know, its OK for you, just not for me!
I'm not the one complaining about how hard it is to read long posts - doesn't bother me in the least, even with plenty of emojis. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're the one who has respectively said ALL.
Again, actually point me to where I said ALL... I wait again.

Glad you came back. In hindsight, I probably should have never gone to school, never taken a job that required me to fly all over the place belching carbon left and right, and instead, just been a hippy (the OG boomer hippy) and been a homeless bum when some irate city kicked me out and sent to Hilo on a one way ticket, where I could have wheeled my suitcase to the SNAP office and walked out with my new EBT card and lived off the other saps who work and pay taxes. And instead of buying the properties we now own in the Acres, I could have just squatted there and hope no one called the SWAT Team on me!
That's one way to skin the cat, somewhat popular in Puna although with more communal living arrangements than squatters (housing crisis strikes again), and would lead to less carbon being emitted which is actually the longest lasting legacy for most of our lives. Maybe you missed an opportunity?

"Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does. It is up to you to give [life] a meaning" - JP Sartre, again.

Who said I don't like PunaWeb or PunaWebbers? Outside of you. As for "hate posting," well what do you expect from me? I am a boomer after all. Remember? But then, what specifically am I "hate posting" about?
Few of us toss some code and pics back and forth to see what creative options are possible during the upgrade glitch, randomq even invites to join in, you complain about the "blinking flashing neon-colored pages", repeatedly. Many people take issue about your approach to conversing the community here, you complain that people don't like you "no matter what I say", repeatedly. On and on... you seemed to have adopted a "fuk y'all are haters" attitude, but have you stopped to consider that you may have a roll in all this?

Anyhow, something to think about - hope you had a nice drive and Kona-side protest. Enjoy your time with your family.

[HiloJulie]

Yak: Taxpayers are not willingly giving them their money like you are. Making that choice to willingly give support to the oligarch pedophiles is the difference.
Just making excuses to excuse the same thing that’s just presented in a different light. And one could reasonably argue that oligarch pedophiles are the ones seeing that the oligarch pedophiles are funded with our taxpayer dollars – and doing so willingly.

Yak: The fact that you can't tell that I and the judge are saying the same thing is concerning. Section 230 only protects big tech from lawsuits based on posted content, where these lawsuits were based on design features, so section 230 was not in play. That's why the related articles keep using words like "circumvent" and "route around" the section 230 protections. You're willingness to double and triple down on your hot take instead of just doing a bit more reading of the sources provided by those more in the know just leaves you looking more than a bit foolish.
The statement I originally made was “And it looks like the good old Section 230 may have a new crack in it.” which, if one would comprehend words, means that the big tech companies who once thought their legal “Trump card” was the provisions of Section 230 to be able to do more or less anything they desire, “may have a crack in it.” Further, these cases are being heralded into being on the same legal grounds with the lawsuits that brought down big tobacco. And what you’re saying is not anywhere near what the judge(s) is(are) or myself for that matter are saying.

Yak: Actually, I looked at Punaweb in the evening and said, nah, it's a big wide world out there with plenty of other things to see and do, and went and read a book (gotta find out how those moon anarchists are going to make themselves a better world)
Yes, of course, you and everyone else who posts on PunaWeb are always captivated by that big wide world out there as you post long winded posts on PunaWeb.

Yak: Oh, whinging is usually step one, but then it's best to take other steps to actually address the issues. That's what the other many hours of the day are for when not online. 
As for all the hours spent “not online” silly me, I thought those hours were to be used to get drunk, stoned and angry and all that? Oh, and watch SpongeBob – on a continuous loop. Right? 

Yak: So you're an anarchist then comrade? It's always funny how people get hung up on labels like progressive, leftist, or anarchist but when you describe your goals and labors - helping everyone obtain food, housing, health care, and education - and all of a sudden many of them are on board. The direct action involved from raising awareness, to helping file for benefits, to pushing for legislation, to volunteering with Food Banks or Habitatate for Humanity, to showing up to help install a solar system or catchment tank is all that really matters IMO regardless of what you call it.
Yeah, like getting hung up on “boomer” this and “boomer” that? And I don’t think one needs to be an anarchist to just be a kind decent human being, but then again, after seeing what America has become in the last 10 years, I am rethinking just what human decency is.

Yak: You inability to understand the Wachowskis or Baudrillard is an indictment of your lack of comprehension, not their writings.
Yeah. While my comment has nothing to do with any inability to understand something but try filing that original paragraph as a legal brief or motion. Good luck!

Yak: My professional background put me at the interface between biotech companies and the FDA.
And that makes you able to understand “lawyer speak” how?

Yak: You are a boomer, by definition, given your age. So is Rob, and Edge, and others. As such all y'all are reps for your generation along with many others and their collective voting record, which is what I talking about, regardless of how any one individual voted. Much like you said "HECO exists because the voters allow it", many of the current challenges exist because the voters have allowed it, a majority of which are boomers because of demographics. Them's just the facts ma'am.
Yeah, so then, if I am a representative of ALL boomers and my generation along with many others and their collective voting record would be the same as saying that if a native  Hawaiian man who robs 7-11, kills a clerk or two, then ALL native Hawaiian men are representatives of men who rob 7-11's and kill a clerk or two. So, no matter how you wish to slice it or dice it, that is EXACTLY what you’re saying.

Yak: Baby steps can be yet one more renewable project in solar, wind, geothermal, etc, not sipping fossile instead of doing shots by the barrel and claiming you don't really drink anymore.
Back with the bottom of the bucket intellect of me being drunk again! Works so well for ya Yak! As for solar, wind, geothermal, etc., this drunk old lady says bring it on baby! But, and again, that is not going to happen overnight. So, if, over the last 20 –30 years, we had gone from burning bunker oil to say LNG, while simultaneously developing wind, solar and geothermal, instead of the equivalent of an orangutang beating his “drill baby drill” chest that has, to this day, kept wind, solar and geothermal in the equivalent “dark ages”  think how much better we all would be.

Yak: You'd be wrong, again.
If your occupation is one that is paid for by the taxpayer, then, one can say, you’re sucking the taxpayer’s teat. Right? But then, one could argue; I’m not WILLINGLY paying you. Right?

Yak: If they don't pertain to you then why do you keep cherry-picking them from the list and trying to say I'm claiming they do?
Well, being clear, you’re not claiming anything. You’re saying that I am all those things on your list. 

Yak: Then why all the "I'm treated so unfairly, why doesn't someone stand up for me" dramatics?
Remind me again who started a thread complaining about how Rob moderates PunaWeb.

Yak: I'm not the one complaining about how hard it is to read long posts - doesn't bother me in the least, even with plenty of emojis. 
Oh, I know that. I was just demonstrating your inherent hypocrisy, of which you’re clearly blind to. Nonetheless, emoji away! I wish I could have filed legal briefs and motions with emojis! That poop emoji would have been extensively used!

Yak: Again, actually point me to where I said ALL... I wait again.
OK, I’ll capitulate that you did not say ALL. Just “most.” Or as you stated above with the “being a representative of” everyone in “my generation.”

Yak: That's one way to skin the cat, somewhat popular in Puna although more communal living arrangements than squatters (housing crisis strikes again), and would lead to less carbon being emitted which is actually the longest lasting legacy for most of our lives. Maybe you missed an opportunity?
True that! But think of the carbon belching that everyone on SNAP would create. I mean, all those plastic cards have to be made. The energy expended in increased computers to run it all. And since everyone is on SNAP, no one would be able to afford lesser carbon belching vehicles, or EV’s or hybrids, so Puna would be smogged down with everyone driving 1970’s big block V8’s that at best get 12 MPG. Damnit, I missed such a golden opportunity!

Yak: "Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does. It is up to you to give [life] a meaning" - JP Sartre, again.
Yet, (most) boomers are to blame for everything wrong? Again.

Yak: Few of us toss some code and pics back and forth to see what creative options are possible during the upgrade glitch, randomq even invites to join in, you complain about the "blinking flashing neon-colored pages", repeatedly. Many people take issue about your approach to conversing the community here, you complain that people take issue "no matter what I say." On and on... have you stopped to consider that you may have a roll in all this?
You know, your use of the term “many people” - hmm, where do I always seem to hear that? And of course, being as irritating as possible is a God given right. Right?

Yak: Anyhow, something to consider - hope you had a nice drive and Kona-side protest. Hope you enjoy your time with your family.
Oh, the drive was great! I did have to yell at Barney a few times as the little bastard was driving at 110MPH on the Saddle while my husband and I sat in the back seat sucking down the first quart of Jack Daniels and hot boxing a few big fattys of the “skunk!” Family is doing fine, but man, they are still passed out as I post this from the drive back after attending the Kona protest and then helping my husband and I drink the 2nd and 3rd quarts of Jack Daniels and rolling up a few more doobies and puffing them down! Frickin’ lightweights! But their inability to get their ass out of bed affords me the time to post on PunaWeb! Their loss is YOUR gain!

Oh, one more thing. Remember when you said this?: Gotcha - so Fuk ICE and Fuk da CBP - sounds like protest sign slogans, have see if they show up in Hilo / Kona.
At the Kona protest, quite a few signs that said EXACTLY that. I even saw one lady with a professionally printed shirt that had that exact slogan!

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I am also doubly impressed that you are working "with an large international law firm's IP (Intellectual Property) division on a very lengthy patent application..." when you consider that any large, competent, top tier IP/Patent/Copyright law firm that works on an international level is billing - on the low end $1,200 to $1,500 an hour to a high end of $3,000 to $4,000 an hour..

So, having said that, and with your repeated bragging about all your air travel, and highfalutin lawyering, one has to wonder, how did you end up in the ghetto? Why ain't you sportin’ some kine high priced lawyer’s South Kohala estate? I mean, yeah I get it, secretaries end up in the ghettos, but not the lawyers.

I can imagine the type of lawyers you're dealing with on your patent application considering this is the guy you recommended to a PunaWeb poster for their estate planning.

[MyManao]

I am also doubly impressed that you are working "with an large international law firm's IP (Intellectual Property) division on a very lengthy patent application..." when you consider that any large, competent, top tier IP/Patent/Copyright law firm that works on an international level is billing - on the low end $1,200 to $1,500 an hour to a high end of $3,000 to $4,000 an hour..

So, having said that, and with your repeated bragging about all your air travel, and highfalutin lawyering, one has to wonder, how did you end up in the ghetto? Why ain't you sportin’ some kine high priced lawyer’s South Kohala estate? I mean, yeah I get it, secretaries end up in the ghettos, but not the lawyers. But hey you go on and on as if you're the second coming of absolutely nothing. Touché.

So.. a "real" lawyer who is but one step up from a trailer park.. and that's just because Hawaii ain't got 'em.. has nothing to offer other than throwing mud? Seriously Jules.. I doubt you ever got near an actual state bar.. other than da kine to order drinks and get thrown out of..

And, beings that it's Sunday one does wonder, howz your special "friend" doing this morning? Does it have any questions?

Anyways.. I said my piece.. you're unable to do more than throw mud and make up reams of nonsense to waste away your life. So.. have a good one. You certainly can't have mine.

[HiloJulie]

It is always refreshing to see that PunaWeb is never full of anyone "hate posting!"

[HiloJulie]

...while the "normies" politely stayed out of the way,...

...Or people could just be sensible about their number of posts or the mass editing after the fact to hide what was said,...

ironyak (posted) 47 minutes ago (This post was last modified: 18 minutes ago by ironyak.)

Today's top poster: ironyak (6 posts)

[HiloJulie]

God willing, this is all part of the process of implementing Kalianna's 3 post per day solution. If we didn't realize how badly her wisdom was needed before the current formatting issue, the ongoing shenanigans of the usual suspects -  while the "normies" politely stayed out of the way, should provide the ultimate clarity. Hopes and prayers.

PS: also praying for the 500 word post limit and 15 minute time limit to edit.

Post#3 for 3/29/2025  Have a great rest of your Sunday, Punaweb.

So, if there is NEVER a 3 post, 500-word, 15-minute edit limit systematically set, what does that do and mean to you about your God, and the effectiveness of hopes and prayers?

And I'm still flabbergasted, yet perplexed at the seeming infatuation you have with kalianna.

[ironyak]

HiloJulie Today's top poster: ironyak (6 posts)
But I only posted 5 times yesterday. (see attached) How is it that you can't even reliably count 5 items, because that arrogance combined with the math "skills", is in fact laugh out loud funny.

Just making excuses to excuse the same thing that’s just presented in a different light. And one could reasonably argue that oligarch pedophiles are the ones seeing that the oligarch pedophiles are funded with our taxpayer dollars – and doing so willingly.
Well it is quite different, both because you willingly choose to give your money and the amount of money involved. The ~$4 billion awarded over the last several years to Musk's SpaceX equals out to about $25 per tax payer total, or about $5 per year. So your $480 a year is 96x more support for the pedophilic billionaire than the average tax-payer. Makes what you support quite clear.

The statement I originally made was “And it looks like the good old Section 230 may have a new crack in it.” ... And what you’re saying is not anywhere near what the judge(s) is(are) or myself for that matter are saying.
But Section 230 doesn't have a crack in it, because it wasn't challenged in the recent trials. If you, me, or any Punatic tried to sue one of the big tech platforms for the content they host, they'd run straight into the intact Section 230 protections which were upheld by the Supreme Court multiple times such as in Gonzalez v. Google LLC (2023) and Twitter, Inc. v. Taamneh

If however an aspiring Puna lawyer were to "circumvent", "route around", or otherwise "get around" section 230 protections based on design flaw and public nuisance arguments, then they might have a chance (like the thousands of MDL 3047 cases and those brought by the ~40 state AGs, including ours in Hawai'i

For any Punatic that knows a teenager that may have been harmed by social media, they may qualify to participate in the litigation. Search for "MDL 3047 social media" for more info and consider legal advice (the process is often free as lawyers get paid out of the potential settlement).

Yeah, like getting hung up on “boomer” this and “boomer” that? And I don’t think one needs to be an anarchist to just be a kind decent human being, but then again, after seeing what America has become in the last 10 years, I am rethinking just what human decency is.
Words have meaning - best to use them accurately to describe the situation. Anarchism takes human decency and puts in action by cutting through the red-tape -  housing is more important than permits, providing food takes priority over regulations, ensuring access to education and knowledge is for everyone's benefit, creators and learners alike, not just the IP middle men.

Yeah. While my comment has nothing to do with any inability to understand something but try filing that original paragraph as a legal brief or motion. Good luck!
May be gobbledygook to you, but meaningful to others - signifiers and signifieds all around us. And of course this isn't a legal brief so such expectations are misplaced here - you know where you are right?

And that makes you able to understand “lawyer speak” how?
Grabbed that line before my minor edits a few minutes later... you doing that whole "tapping F5 to refresh and pouncing on the reply" thing you accused others of? As for lawyer speak, we had contracts to fulfill, and FDA requirements to meet - glad I didn't have to write any of it, but had to make sure the legalese properly described the technical and scientific realities and that we met the described obligations.

Yeah, so then, if I am a representative of ALL boomers and my generation along with many others and their collective voting record would be the same as saying that if a native  Hawaiian man who robs 7-11, kills a clerk or two, then ALL native Hawaiian men are representatives of men who rob 7-11's and kill a clerk or two. So, no matter how you wish to slice it or dice it, that is EXACTLY what you’re saying.
You inserting the word ALL is again just showing your lack of understanding and nuance. Boomers are a group of people, defined by birthdate, that have both individual differences and documented historical trends, such as the outcomes of their collective voting record. As the largest demographic in a representative democracy they have a disproportionate impact on the state of the world, for good and bad. As a wiser older generation once said "With great power comes great responsibility."

Yak: Baby steps can be yet one more renewable project in solar, wind, geothermal, etc, not sipping fossil fuels instead of doing shots by the barrel and claiming you don't really drink anymore.

Back with the bottom of the bucket intellect of me being drunk again! Works so well for ya Yak!
But that's not what I'm saying at all (Freud would have a field day here)... I'm saying Hawai'i, and the U.S. in general, is addicted to fossil fuels, much like an alcoholic, and that switching to LNG is just like sipping whisky instead of pounding shots, or drinking lite beer and saying that it's not really drinking. Sobriety requires quitting and indulging in such self-deluding rationalizations.

As for solar, wind, geothermal, etc., this drunk old lady says bring it on baby! But, and again, that is not going to happen overnight. So, if, over the last 20 –30 years, we had gone from burning bunker oil to say LNG, while simultaneously developing wind, solar and geothermal, instead of the equivalent of an orangutang beating his “drill baby drill” chest that has, to this day, kept wind, solar and geothermal in the equivalent “dark ages”  think how much better we all would be.
But LNG is largely a side product of oil exploration, so your support for LNG is supporting fracking and "drill baby drill", as that's where all the LNG is coming from and why it's so cheap. How about instead, with solar dropping 90%+ in cost over the past 10+years, and a tropical state with 270+ sunny days a year and wind and geothermal resources, we just follow the Kauai Coop's lead and skip the LNG bridge to nowhere.

If your occupation is one that is paid for by the taxpayer, then, one can say, you’re sucking the taxpayer’s teat. Right? But then, one could argue; I’m not WILLINGLY paying you. Right?
Sure - you elected your political representatives and they decided to pay for services with all of our tax money. Doing the math, each Hawai'i tax payer provided about 3 cents a year to my income, so thanks, hopefully the services provided are worth it. If not, you can always elect someone else or do the "All Taxation is Theft" thing and go all libertarian / minarchist / ancap, and support ending all taxes and moving to toll roads and personal contracts for all services. There's some here on Punaweb that are likely on board.

Or you could build an unpermitted cabin by a pond and watch the ants fight and the peas grow and journal about your experiences largely free from monetary obligations. Sounds pretty transcendental to me.

Well, being clear, you’re not claiming anything. You’re saying that I am all those things on your list.
But again, I'm not saying that. Like Rob, I'm asking if any of those apply as an explanation. You seem fixated on misinterpreting.

Remind me again who started a thread complaining about how Rob moderates PunaWeb.
I give up, who? (and you're sure you've read it and understood it, right?)

Oh, I know that. I was just demonstrating your inherent hypocrisy, of which you’re clearly blind to. Nonetheless, emoji away! I wish I could have filed legal briefs and motions with emojis! That poop emoji would have been extensively used!
But I never complained about long posts, so how I am being hypocritical? (you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...) But here, I'll help you to accentuate your visual communication style - ?

OK, I’ll capitulate that you did not say ALL. Just “most.” Or as you stated above with the “being a representative of” everyone in “my generation.”
Hey, honesty and nuance, neat! Correct, that how representatives work, big rich tapestry to consider both the individual details and the overall collection.

True that! But think of the carbon belching that everyone on SNAP would create. I mean, all those plastic cards have to be made. The energy expended in increased computers to run it all. And since everyone is on SNAP, no one would be able to afford lesser carbon belching vehicles, or EV’s or hybrids, so Puna would be smogged down with everyone driving 1970’s big block V8’s that at best get 12 MPG. Damnit, I missed such a golden opportunity!
I'm sure the one EBT card is a reduction compared to the amount of plastic cards in your wallet. And we could power all that computation with renewables if people we're not so hung up on supporting fossil fuels at all costs. Given most living-on-the-land punatics don't have any motor vehicle at all and rely on bikes and hitchiking to get around, they are clearly doing more than their share environmentally. Could always given them a ride in the EV and they they'd be on quite the golden path.

And of course, being as irritating as possible is a God given right. Right?
You may find it irritating, some of us found it interesting in that maximalist Banksy or Keith Haring style. Punaweb is a community, it not just about you, and only Rob and the Mod set the rules.

"Yet, (most) boomers are to blame for everything wrong? Again.
Mostly it comes down to the support for the conservative administrations, Reagan in particularly, that set us on this current trajectory. So yes, the voting majority of boomers are to blame, welcome to the consequences of representative democracy. If the majority (which until recently has been mostly boomers) stops choosing poorly we might not have ketchup as a school lunch vegetable, or millions imprisoned for smoking weed, or the repeated bombing and starving of brown kids around the world, or ICE pulling immigrant teachers out of their Maui abodes, or insufficient funding for USGS science and UH education and social supports like SNAP, or the blocking of the transition to using the renewable energy sources all around us in Hawai'i while there is still time.

At the Kona protest, quite a few signs that said EXACTLY that. I even saw one lady with a professionally printed shirt that had that exact slogan!
Cool - hopefully there's enough momentum so people can work together to put the slogans into practice.

[HiloJulie]

HiloJulie Today's top poster: ironyak (6 posts)
But I only posted 5 times yesterday. (see attached) How is it that you can't even reliably count 5 items, because that arrogance combined with the math "skills", is in fact laugh out loud funny.

Your attachment (see attached) shows 6 posts. The "portal page" counts posts made in the preceding 24 hours. I would think such an highly educated computer coding expert would know that. Further, I just highlighted the line from the portal page, hit copy and then pasted it directly into my post. But you have to admit, the Kitty Foreman laughing clip was quite funny!

And then, please show me where I said or accused anyone of "tapping F5 to refresh and pouncing on the reply"

The rest of your post deserves no reply from me, since it is filled with arrogance, personal insults and opinions stated as facts, except to say, that I am very impressed with the amount of time you spent in typing, researching an inserting the links and everything else BEFORE you hit "post." My only concern is that me, as a taxpayer, is paying your time doing that. (Or on a taxpayer paid for computer)