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With all due respects to HOTPE, but let me reply to your endless gibberish with some more endless gibberish:
Repeated financial crises (Roger offshoring Me lifetime-and-a-gold-watch factory job, 2008 Florida strippers buying too many houses on deregulated credit, a once-a-century pandemic being ignored by boomers in charge so younger essential workers are subjected to life-threatening conditions so other entitled boomers can stay at home and order weed, record inflation due to Boomer-in-chief cutting taxes for high earners and not recapturing those PPP loan scams, and lead boomer driving up costs on everything by trying to get even with the dead for a 50-year-old revenge plot over the 1953 US overthrow of a democratically elected leader) have left many in the younger generation with no pot to piss in. Having to compost poop, and pee on the fruit trees and other "rocks" as needed.
Yeah, people did that. I did not. Again, the rhetoric of your logic that is the equivalent of the Hawaiian man robs a store, so all Hawaiian men rob stores is astounding, coupled with the endless blame game over and over and over.
Maybe this is an appropriate response:
Oh no, poor Instacart, whatever can they do to protect themselves from having to refund the customers' money other than to actually require their drivers be near the GPS of the delivery location when closing an order, or checking that enough time has passed to reasonably believe food was picked up and delivered, or actually posting a receipt from the right store like Costco with the right date, etc... Corpo scum - they've done nothing and are all out of ideas - probably best not to give them your money, even if it gets refunded ultimately (which seems to be the case from Edge's Hilo Happenings FB thread)
Yeah, that Corpo scum should add a few hundred more paid staff positions to ensure some scum bag insta cart driver does the job he is supposed to do makes a lot of sense I suppose. Just raise the prices up even more to pay for those positions as there are plenty of saps out there willing to pay!
Raising kids, taking care of older relatives, and working most every day. What makes you think I, of all people, am trying to encourage people drive even farther, to the other side of the island at that, as a regular solution for fetching their food? I'm on Team Light Edge, with the growing of turnips in the backyard solutions, not Team Dark Edge, with the "just one more lane bro" induced demand driving solutions.
Oh, poor you. You think YOU'RE the only one who has done that? Look, I did an adult thing!!! Pat me on my back! We're your kids planned or just the result of poor decisions on your part?
Cue Bill: (Contains adult languange, viewer discretion is advised)
You can join us in the basement if you like - we got recreational options at least as good as those Point Place Wisconsin kids, can roll some D20s to fight the demogorgons, maybe order a pizza, with pineapple, far out, and watch some Linklater if you like. Mom's dead so we're on our own, but can do most anything, if we dream together and work together.
Yeah, let's all work together, as long as by working together, we just blame all the boomers for all things bad. Count me in, but only if I can live rent free in a washed up, irrelevant old boomer's head!
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Team Dark Edge, with the "just one more lane bro"
Backstory:
I drove many years from HPP to Aloha Cargo in Hilo. I scheduled trips twice a week, which after work included any and all necessary shopping in Hilo. At that time Hwy 130 merged immediately after Keaau High School. When traffic was light the 22 mile trip took 25-30 minutes. Rush hour (unavoidable with schedule requirements) the “drive” might last an hour, even longer.
By my seat-of-the-pants calculation I estimated a drive of 22 miles requiring one hour consumed more gas than a drive of 22 miles in 30 minutes. Multiply that by a decade or two.
Given the high carbon requirements of asphalt, and the assumption that drivers gonna drive, seat-of-the-pants estimate again, an extra lane might result in a more-is-less situation. More highway lanes, less idling on the road, lower gas consumption. I don’t have a Puna>Hilo schedule anymore, and my EV car stereo is better, so I’m fine either way.
Now there is a better way, but we have to get around the rhetoric of short sighted temporary leaders and their gullible short sighted temporary (please) followers.
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According to "Hilo Happenings", some guy named Sean Wailin O'Phelan does Costco pickups for $50. Some Puna webber should give it a try: Hit him up on Facebook (the favored platform for Boomers).
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04-13-2026, 09:41 PM
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(04-13-2026, 05:02 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: OK.
In case my previous warning gets lost in the scrum I’ll repeat it here:
Costco does offer Instacart delivery.
Generally they probably won’t find a driver to deliver smaller orders to the east side of Hawaii Island from Kona.
There have been instances of larger orders getting hijacked by scammer delivery people. (Emphasis Mine)
Buyer beware.
This was probably just a few isolated cases of necessitas non habet legem, in no small part due to the oppressive nature of taxing these hard working, poor people's tips when they are just trying to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Finally, people driving Instacart orders out to Puna, who might be much like like Door Dash Granny, will be able to keep more of their hard earned tips. As a result, your Instacart order from Costco in Kona to somewhere in Puna, is now more likely to arrive complete and on time.
While I'm sure your first world, poor white dude problem of experiencing a loss here and there so that your neighbors, who are trying to pull themselves up by the bootstraps do not starve, is inconvenient, Proverbs: 6:30-31 reminds us of what for most of us is self evident and this is that people do not despise a thief who steals to satisfy hunger (although it does call for restitution - go figure).
Having read, in these Punaweb pages, the many signals of your big, virtuous heart, and your propensity toward appropriation, it is fair to conclude that you would not begrudge a starving neighbor who ignores your "no trespassing" sign and helps themselves to some of your excess of breadfruit. Even if you did object and despise your starving neighbor, they would likely be supported in law if it is an immediate and essential need for nourishment.
The great news is that Puna Boomertics from Grannys on down to Gen - Z are all seeing their lot improved now that tax time is here and for that we can all be grateful. More hard earned cash will be circulating in Puna at local business and lifting all boats. Lift a glass of Kirkland Crown ( I hear it's better than the real thing) this evening and perhaps crack open some Thomas Aquinas and/or enjoy reading or watching the story of Jean Valjean's appropriation of a loaf of bread in Victor Hugo's Les Míserables. Be thankful for your good fortune and try not to begrudge the occasional theif.
https://collegevilleinstitute.org/bearin...ons-bread/
https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...ry-no-tax/
https://www.robsoncrim.com/single-post/2...erspective
https://www.newadvent.org/summa/3066.htm#article7
https://amiba.net/local-multiplier/
https://aquinas.cc/la/en/~ST.II-II.Q66.A7
https://www.csus.edu/faculty/s/kyle.swan...evised.pdf
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1707386/
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your first world, poor white dude problem of experiencing a loss here and there
I’m not sure what that was all about:
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but I guess by popping in some of your viewpoints while orchestrating the weave it creates plausible deniability or implausible deniability, if not an actual intention to convey meaning and understanding.
I experienced no loss, time is too valuable to be wasted, so my point was there’s a possibility when ordering from Costco-Instacart it may eat up some of your time, with no food delivered to eat up for dinner. Simple as that. I have no idea what the random Instacart driver’s financial situation is, and neither do you. Order or don’t order, but I offered some small amount of additional information.
I would suggest however if any kind hearted Puna resident wanted to provide food for a fictionally hungry Instacart driver, they could place an order, pay for it, then text the driver that they may keep the food. Let us know how it works out.
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(04-13-2026, 09:41 PM)Punatang Wrote: Finally, people driving Instacart orders out to Puna, who might be much like like Door Dash Granny, will be able to keep more of their hard earned tips. As a result, your Instacart order from Costco in Kona to somewhere in Puna, is now more likely to arrive complete and on time.
I certainly hope that NO ONE in Hawaii has to be in the same boat as Door Dash Granny, who, at 78 years old, has to deliver food to pay for her husband's cancer treatments. At least her tips are tax free, but her income as a GOP prop actor may put her into a much different tax bracket. And at 78 years old, I am amazed at her extensive delivery coverage routes as well.
At any event, NO 78-year-old grandma, especially here in Puna, Kona or anywhere else in America, should have to work as a food delivery driver to pay for her husband's cancer treatments. I think we can take care of our citizens in a much more dignified way.
But then being a paid shrill might just bring in enough money to pay for the cancer treatments and live a rather comfortable if not even lavish lifestyle complete with professional makeup artists at the standby for any opportune photo ops.
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(04-13-2026, 10:04 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: I’m not sure what that was all about:
^ Tell me about it. Possibly the most bizarre post I've seen on Punaweb. Come on, Tang. Relevance please.
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04-14-2026, 05:19 PM
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Edge - I’m not sure what that was all about
First year philosophy stuff about St. Thomas Aquinas' beliefs that "In cases of need all things are common property, so there would seem to be no sin in taking another’s property, for need has made it common" and "Whatever certain persons have in superabundance is due, by natural law, to the purpose of succoring the poor."
Apparently, this means to Punatang that Edge is obliged to share his rake, extra breadfruit, and superfluous Costco groceries with some imaginary hungry and destitute neighbor and delivery driver, but those in actual reality that hoard billions in food funding from the poor and hungry in Puna and across the country deserve Tang's political endorsement and support. Again, make it make sense Lord.
Edge - Backstory: I drove many years from HPP to Aloha Cargo in Hilo
I was just rehashing old conversations for those that may have missed them the first or third time. Or maybe I'm battling for your soul in a contest for your better nature, light vs dark and good vs evil. Hypothetically at least, gotta live in those hypotheticals, reality is such a bummer and a hassle.
"Swimming in a fish bowl, Year after year. Running over the same old ground, What have we found?" - probably sounds pretty good on that EV car stereo system. ;)
MyManao - And we're off to the races...
To be fair, when I started my reply, I was trying to bring the conversation back down from the mountain and its lack of electronic technicians (more damn robots taking human technicians' jobs! Maybe the observatories can pick these up in bulk at Costco as well?) Or perhaps I listen too much to that OG King, with the whole "when the circus comes to town, you gotta jump that train", at least that's what it sounds like, car speakers are a little worn out from being so vintage, like my hearing. I'm tired boss...
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First year philosophy stuff about St. Thomas Aquinas' beliefs that "In cases of need all things are common property, so there would seem to be no sin in taking another’s property, for need has made it common" and "Whatever certain persons have in superabundance is due, by natural law, to the purpose of succoring the poor."
Come to think of it, but wasn't it one of the platforms of the current administration to shoot dead any shoplifter on sight? Imagine that happening at Walmart in Hilo a few times a day. Or when some poor hungry Puna resident ignores someone's No Trespassing sign.
Apparently, this means to Punatang that Edge is obliged to share his rake, extra breadfruit, and superfluous Costco groceries with some imaginary hungry and destitute neighbor and delivery driver, but those in actual reality that hoard billions in food funding from the poor and hungry in Puna and across the country deserve Tang's political endorsement and support. Again, make it make sense Lord.
How can the Lord make it make sense? Haven't you heard? Turns out that the Lord's Number 1 representative is, after all, soft on crime.
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04-14-2026, 07:19 PM
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Oy Vey!
Guys the sun is out and there is much to be done so no time to go one by one - but I shall.
HJ, - the Blue Sky post - I wanted to give you an opportunity to dig a little deeper than that, reputation something something. I'm too busy to challenge it right now so you have time. Thanks for the intro to BS - I heard it was just cats but I do see that there are some other things as well.
Dear friends, there are more ways than one to provide a safety net and nudge wealth distribution. Let's all - including me - attempt to be kind and intellectually honest. The fact that everyone jumped on me and accepted the BS post speaks volumes.
Yes, I was weaving together things from several threads and had anyone done the same in the name of your preferred methods and persons, it would have been easy to understand.
Remember, stay focused on the Billionaires dividing us. Honor the little gal that's trying to help herself. We can all do better. We must.
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